Government needs to get a lid on this. This example of organising in this way for the benefit of a foreign entity on Australian soil is worse than the Confucius Institutes.

It doesn't matter that they're a putitive ally, or, on the other side of the coin, that these people are supposedly celebrating a cunning but disgusting (in its untargeted nature) intelligence operation. For Australian sovereign risk reasons we need to stamp out this Israeli State* organising just like we must with other countrys when they do this.

*I mean these people's action to the benefit of the Israeli State, they don't necessarily have to be proved to be State actors themselves for this to be a sovereign risk.

Edit: what a disgusting event though, how warped your mind must be to imagine dancing atop the dead of a covert operation with your children in tow. Noting the operation's success is not what these people are doing, the extremist ideological hate driving the organisation behind this event should be concerning for everyone, not least those organisers who need a hard look in the mirror.

[–] NooBoY@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The thing I find funny about it is that they do not see anything wrong with this. But if you put October 7 in any kind of positive light, it is the worst thing in the world.

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, i wouldn't put Oct 7th in a positive light, that was horrific also, if not surprising that an outburst of hatred like that might occur considering the apartheid living conditions.

But yes, if you're saying theres a lack of recognition of equivalency in the levels of barbarity in these crimes, i very much agree. It seems a large portion of the Israeli especially and other Western alliance countries are maintaining a glaring double-think that goes against the professed liberal values of these nations.

[–] NooBoY@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is correct. I am saying both events should be condemned. I was trying to point out the hypocrisy around this whole situation.

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah, i thought thats what you were going for, i's just not going to go along with the phrasing.

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone -3 points 1 week ago

There is nothing positive about cutting a woman's breasts off while she she is being raped.

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone -5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It was a carefully targeted action. Only those carrying and using phones for terrorist operations were targeted.

The thing about terrorists, like other unethical criminal organisations, is that they use children in their operations. They do this because they know it will look bad when law enforcement takes action.

The crime is using children, ie anyone under 18, for criminal enterprises.

But then you can't expect terrorists to care.

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 3 points 6 days ago

Deny the evidence of your eyes and ears.

Why don't you read the article, where they state the operation has been labelled a war crime, or read the link u/eureka@aussie.zone provided.

What the Israelis are doing to Palestinians is not right. They're persecuting and killing to terrorise and dominate; Israel can choose a different path, they should choose a different path for their own conscience.

The other side (Palestinians, Iranians, Lebanese, etc) doesn't matter its not a competition about who is the bigger terrorist. If Israel say they're alligned with liberal western values then they have to live alongside those. Try reading some John Stuart Mill and comparing his (and probably his partners) words to Israeli actions. Life makes hypocrites of us all, but at every point we can choose to live by better principles. But they don't.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 3 points 6 days ago

The United Nations officially published this article, in which their experts consider the pager attacks to be war crimes. Interestingly, in the final paragraphs, they characterise the reckless booby-trap method as terroristic to civilians.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/09/exploding-pagers-and-radios-terrifying-violation-international-law-say-un