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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

I like the added level of hilarity in the meme of specifically using Peppa Pig while talking about watching the first episode of Black Mirror. 😂

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 26 points 9 hours ago
[–] FishFace@piefed.social 18 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

I always found black mirror to be like... very kid's first sci-fi. Like, "what if you were FORCED to watch ads?" "Bro, like... What if Facebook likes mattered! Like a lot!"

The ideas aren't impossible but... from the dystopian episodes I saw, there always seemed to be significant obstacles in getting there from where we are that are never explored or explained away.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

FWIW, showrunner Charlie Brooker says that the starting point for every episode is finding an idea he thinks is funny

[–] heh@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

To me that’s always been the point of the show.

Take some real world thing and push it to the point of being dystopian.

In the “Facebook likes” one, you can make a connection to social credit systems IRL.

The explanation is applying a “slippery slope” fallacy for pretty much every single concept.

[–] Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 hours ago

The explanation of “how we got there” is all around you. Every day.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 31 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I think it was writer Daniel M. Lavery who described Black Mirror as, "What if cell phone... but too much!"

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That's kind of an accurate way to describe a lot of society these days though, from doomscrolling to phone addiction to social media disinformation to surveillance and tracking and advertising.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

True, but these ideas were not quite in vogue in 2011 when Black Mirror first aired. The internet still felt like a wonder full of endless possibility. There was an app for everything. Personal data was not mined on planetary scales.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah. It would be sweet to live in a world that doesn't keep proving the cynics and doomsayers correct.

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[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They are but since we don't get a lot of true scifi media ( I would describe most as space fantasy ) I'll take what I can get

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[–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 hours ago

and what a fantastic first dystopian scifi those first seasons were (for me)

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 50 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

I’ve only seen one episode, the San Junipero one. I can’t wait to watch the rest. I do love some cozy, optimistic sci-fi.

[–] adj16@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

How do none of the replies notice your obvious joke?

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 48 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Oh honey.

That's only that episode. That episode is an outlier

The rest of the show is pessimistic dystopia at best.

It was a great episode.

[–] restingOface@quokk.au 14 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

There are a few that are not.

spoiler

  • Hang the DJ
  • Striking Vipers
[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

Hang the DJ just makes me wonder how much was spent on data centres compared to swiping left/right

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[–] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (6 children)

I do love some cozy, optimistic sci-fi.

Well, as others have said, Black Mirror is definitely not cozy/optimistic. In my opinion, it's easy to miss the final point of San Junipero. You have to have watched the episode White Christmas. If you've seen that episode, you know what cookies are and you know that there is an implication in the last seconds of San Junipero that, in my opinion, is pretty dark.

Still the best fucking episode though.

[–] restingOface@quokk.au 3 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

What is so dark? I feel like I must be missing something. Their consciousnesses are being maintained by a server farm. But what is dark about that? It just seems optimistic and such how they get to pretend to live in their 20s forever. Nothing like living in a torturous snow globe or whatever.

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That's one of the best episodes by far. Honestly, stop while you're ahead.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

Honestly don't get why that one was so popular. Cookies find a relationship after death, yay? Not anywhere near as philosophically interesting as lots of other episodes.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 2 points 21 minutes ago

I think it's because it has a happy ending, relatively speaking.

Personally, I saw it as far more dystopian, people killing themselves so that an AI version of then runs cycles to fulfill patterns established while alive? Ugh. Sounds like hell in a bottle to me.

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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 27 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

IMO the best first episode of any series ever.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Honestly, the second episode "Fifteen Million Merits" was the most soul crushing thing I had ever watched, the first episode paled in comparison. Then again, I'm not a pig so clearly Peppa would be a little more traumatized.

[–] mika_mika@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I smoked my first blunt before turning on Fifteen Million Merits, my first episode of Black Mirror. Everyone online told me to watch it before Ep. 1.

My emotion was heightened by 10 fold from THC.

I hate this show so much I have watched every episode multiple times.

True joy does not exist to me anymore.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I can totally see that. The episode "White Bear" from the second season was one I should not have watched in such a state. I was quite shaken afterwards, that one might be worse than "Fifteen Million Merits".

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I did "shut up and dance" and it scared the shit out of me. Like that could be happening right this minute. Im actually kind of surprised such a scenario hasn't turned up in the news.

[–] restingOface@quokk.au 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Most episodes involve some fictional futuristic technology being abused, but that was one of the few episodes that involved only technology that definitely exists today.

  • National Anthem
  • Waldo Moment (arguable, as it would definitely take some tinkering to set up that kind of Vtuber system, not just using an off-the-shelf system)
  • Hang the DJ (arguable, assuming what we are seeing is just a fictionalization of a bunch of software simulations)
  • Metalhead (arguable, as robot dogs do not seem quite that advanced yet, but definitely soon)
  • Bandersnatch (arguable that the multiple timelines and everything are just the character hallucinating or whatever)
  • Smithereens
  • Loch Henry
  • Mazey Day (though the technology is absolutely contemporary, it does feature a mythological creature or whatever)
  • Demon 79 (while it takes place in the past with just old technology, it features supernatural shenanigans again)

EDIT: Fifteen Million Merits is also barely futuristic technology.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 hours ago

Blackmailing people with content like that is happening every day. Just its normally to get you to send crypto to scammers.

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I have a suspicion that Netflix is messing with the episode order for some folks.

My partner and I were on the phone with their mom when she mentioned that she just started watching Black Mirror. I had a silent freakout moment and half-apologized for the early episodes being “pretty gnarly” but she mentioned the first one she saw was a USS Callister or something else.

[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Had it happen with love death and robots too. I think if there's a new season out it starts you on the 1st ep of the newest "complete" season, which is really annoying.

[–] msfroh@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

Oh, I remember the controversy about that show! For Love, Death, and Robots season 1, Netflix randomly put people in one of four buckets (probably a hash of your account ID mod 4 or something), and your bucket determined your episode order.

Apparently, they thought it would be a neat way to present an anthology series (since order doesn't matter). Conspiracy theories arose that Netflix had sussed out peoples' sexual orientation and were using that to determine the episode order.

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Love,_Death_%26_Robots_episodes

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[–] djdarren@piefed.social 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

David Cameron enters the chat

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Codpiece@feddit.uk 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I much preferred it before Netflix got hold of it. It’s not bad now, just different.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

It used to be dark scifi, now it's horror.

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