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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 2 hours ago

Valve's main advantage is they don't have to make up heinous policies in the quarterly game of "tug off the shareholders".

It's all been fucked by AI RAM and SSD (and still GPU) prices. If anyone tries for a next gen £1000 console, they'll be going the same way as Sega.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago

Now if only they can bring down the cost of the Steam Deck and Steam Machine

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Post it. You know which meme.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 14 points 2 hours ago

I want an edit of the "he can't keep getting away with this" to "he can't keep winning" lol.

ANOTHER $200 BILLION DOLLARS TO STEAM &VAVLE!

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 hour ago

Are poop now.

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 hours ago

Remember when PC gaming was dead according to every outlet for two solid years?

[–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 85 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Being customer friendly. What a novel idea.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 29 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I feel like this is not rocket science here, this is like business 101.

  1. Make the customer happy

  2. Enjoy increased sales and revenue

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

N,o, it is economics and at some point over the last decade or so companies decided that the customer should be subjected to a constant shift of quality until it arrives at a level where it is the worst they are possibly willing to accept. Quality down profits up. Welcome to our new world.

This is the new "the customer is always right" attitude.

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[–] creamfresh@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

20 years ago, the exact opposite was said about Steam and they didn’t change much. People just got used to it.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

No.

As a person who resisted hard 20 years ago, they earned it. I didn't get used to it, I found value. In cloud saves, in steam sales, in no pushy advertising, and so on.

As a Linux user over 20 years they also did what nobody else really tried. That matters a lot.

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 hours ago

Sure they didn't change much if you ignored all the improvements they made to the platform.

If they didn't the other competitors wouldn't be irrelevant today.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 hours ago

They haven’t changed much? They have like literally a million more games available on their store now.

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 34 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

One appears to actually like their customers and the other two are actively hostile towards them. I’m sure somebody at Microsoft/Sony are scratching their heads trying to figure out what’s wrong.

Sony’s disc move just screams of a corporate accountant trying to improve the financials and they pick one of the dumbest options to cut costs on. Retailers are obviously upset as digital download cards probably sell like crap compared to physical copies. Outside of gifts I have no idea why anybody would bother.

Also worth mentioning Sony’s CEO and CSO sold 56% and 18% of their shares 2 days after the disc announcement to the tune of millions.

Sony has a 457m lawsuit against them for antitrust issues which they’ve historically defended with…physical disc sales. So I’m happy to see that decision blowing up in their face and I’ll wait for the outcome on that.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That's the point. It's not about the disc. It's about cutting out retailers.

Games sell at the same price or cheaper at the retailer as they do digitally, and the retailer takes a cut. Games sold through PSN or the Xbox store make Sony and Microsoft way more money.

And that's before we get to used sales.

[–] lemmelemmy@feddit.org 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Don’t get me wrong - not to argue. Hate the fact that they’re doing this but asking this genuinely objective point of view.

Why should retailers’s business would be concern to Sony? Isn’t this similar if I was an iron supplier and decided to not sell my materials to one manufacturer that I’m not tied with an agreement, just because I’ve decided not to?

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago

Sony doesn't want to come out and say "Best Buy can get fucked" because Best Buy still sells headphones, TVs, and other products Sony makes, including the Playstation itself. They need the retailers to sell their products.

But with digital goods, they can cut out the retailers retailers. The $10 bucks or whatever the retialer would get now goes to Sony.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

One could argue, with video games specifically, that they lose part of the market without the retailer.

A lot of games are played by kids, and parents, friends, and other family members still go into a store and buy a game to give as a gift.

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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I never got a PlayStation but I was holding out for a PlayStation 6 once it finally got released. If there is no version for physical discs I will definitely not be getting one. Nothing worse then wanting to play a game you haven't played in a while and then having to redownload it because you had to delete it to free up space for other games.

So much nicer just to be able to throw a disc in and go.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That's funny because you describe the play station even when you have the physical disks.

[–] MufinMcFlufin@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago

I wanted to get a PS5 but since almost the only thing I'm actually interested in playing on it is Demon Souls I figured I'd wait until they got a lot cheaper before picking up a console exclusively to play like 2-3 games. Then AI drove the prices way up, Sony added 30 day online checks for their games, and now a digital only PS6 means I'll probably not be getting anything from them for a long time.

[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

Nothing worse then wanting to play a game you haven't played in a while and then having to redownload it...

Not even Dermatobia hominis? Or anthropogenic climate change? Or like, genocide?

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Or run into weird licensing issues you have no control over and the $80 game you bought no longer exists.

[–] musubibreakfast@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Or you still have the game but they just removed the sound track and changed some of the character's faces.

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