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I'd love to hear about your favorite concept or idea you've read about or seen in scifi media.

My personal favorite is the Conjoiner Drive out of the Revelation Space series. These ship drives are dual drives on either side of a lighthugger and have a living being inside the drives to act as a supercomputer, which holds a wormhole open inside the drives. The wormhole links far in the past to the big-bang and uses the energy from the big-bang for propulsion.

In most scifi I've come across wormholes are used for FTL travel, and I thought this was such a unique and creative use of a wormhole it has stuck with me for years after reading about it.

So what are your favorite devices or ideas that have come out of scifi media?

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[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 days ago

Idk if it's my favourite but i really appreciate how simple and elegant the concept of a stargate is, and how great it works as a centrepiece for stories.

[–] TheDarkestShark@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I started reading a new series called The Captives War, same author as The Expanse. The book starts on a non-earth planet where humans have a seemingly similar level of science and tech as today. They discuss knowing that this planet is not their home world because they live along side another evolutionary tree but they do not know how they got there.

Its not really the main focus of the story so it hasn't really been explained yet, I only read the first book so far and the third of the trilogy is not yet released. Some fan theories think its a connection to the end of The Expanse book series, where spoiler spoiler the network of portals connecting 1000s of world's is destroyed stranding millions of people on 100s of worlds across the universe.

I just really like the concept of humans industrializing on an alien world and how they got there was simply lost to time. The fan theory is also partially why I like it but I'm sure it will have a different explanation.

[–] PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Anne Leckie’s Translators. Aliens so alien that the only way we can have any shred of common ground is by them taking a few humans and rebuilding them specifically to be their ambassadors, with interesting results.

[–] ashenone@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Is this from Translation State? That's what came up when I searched Anne leckie translators, but sounds like something I'd enjoy.

Have you read Embassytown? It has some funky linguistics going on that sounds like it might be up your alley

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Translation State is a standalone book in her Imperial Radch universe, which includes the Ancillary Justice trilogy, which is a great series. I highly recommend it.

[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago

A Translator appears in Ancillary Sword, and it's pretty much "try to simulate a human" silly stuff for comic relief.

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The Uplift Series is a gem. Copied directly from Wiki because it's succinct yet thorough:

The Five Galaxies are filled with alien races, all of whom were "uplifted" into sentience by another race through the use of directed breeding. As "payment" for being made sentient, the uplifted races are subservient to their uplifters for a period of time. All existing races have reached sentience through this process, and follow a common evolution in which the races become free of their uplifters, enter a period of independent power, and then fade and eventually disappear.

The arrival of a human ship at a populated star upsets the established races as humanity reached sentience on their own. This had been believed to be impossible, nothing of the sort is known in the eons-old galactic library. This leads to great arguments among the alien powers. Humanity begins to uplift other species on Earth, including chimpanzees and dolphins, but does not demand subservience.

[–] edralzar@feddit.fr 13 points 1 week ago

sounds interesting !

but does not demand subservience

that's the fictional part right there I guess :)

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

my favorite trope that i dont see enough of in movies is realistic galactic travel and all the tech that would require.. travel to another star system.. usually multi-generational attempts. feels like there is a lot of this in books.

you often see a brief glimpse, or some hand waiving with hibernation techniques. not much feels real.

[–] ashenone@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fully agree, give me non-ftl space is really really fucking big scifi and I'm a happy camper

[–] Ixoid@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have just finished Peter F. Hamilton's latest excellent duology The Archimedes Engine and The Helium Sea and slower than light interstellar travel, and the time dilation that ensues, is a constant theme. There is some hand-wavy ~~magic~~ technology for speeding ships up to 99% of lightspeed (and slowing them down again) using massive gates, which means the main parts of the story are told over decades.

[–] almost1337@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Chasm City has a pretty realistic take on generation ships.

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The issue with multigenerational stuff in movies is that you would need a new cast for each generation. Foundation series is for example very hard to adapt and they diverged from the books to make things more convenient by having the emperor clone himself and cryosleep. I think currently it's very hard to get a series through that requires people to pay attention when they're literally on their phones while watching.

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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is a bit of a general one, but I have a fondness for very large space structures. A number of my favorite scifi stories take the premise of "exploring a (usually abandoned or tech-regressed) alien megastructure".

Dyson spheres and ringworlds and stellar engines and the like are the obvious candidates, but honestly I like smaller (but still huge) ideas like oneill cylinder colonies just as much, because what I like in them is a function of both size and how close to understood physics they follow, and the latter tend to be easier to make plausible.

There's a certain sense of inspiration that comes of someone describing something almost incomprehensibly huge, explaining that it is designed by intelligent entities, and then justifying it with enough real science as to convince you that something at least somewhat like it really could exist, someday, or maybe already does somewhere out in the vastness of the universe.

[–] ashenone@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Im with you i love a good megastructure. I know the bobiverse books are a bit cheesy but I really enjoyed the oneill cylinder world that was the main focus of book 4 I think it was. Pushing Ice, Ringworld, and Rendezvous with Rama were all good as well. Got any other good superstructure stories I could get into?

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago

You named virtually all of the ones I'd mention first lol. I guess I'd probably add "bowl of heaven" to that, I'm not sure it's design is the most plausible form for the concept really but it features a stellar engine (specifically, one using the star as a sort of rocket thruster, to move something like a ringworld around).

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

The book writing technique of the D'ni from Myst. It was not magic, it was essentially math and virtual reality. It just was in hand written books you could enter by placing your hand on a window instead of walking into a big room like the holodecks of Star Trek.

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[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In Doctor who spin-off media there exists a voodoo time-travelling cult called faction paradox. They wear bones and skulls. To obtain these they find a species, hunt them, then go back in time and prevent that species from ever having existed in the first place

So they’re wearing the real bones of creatures who never evolved and never existed

That’s pretty cool

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[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A couple from from Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series have always stood out to me:

The Infinite Improbability Drive is used to propel a spaceship by means of increasing improbability to infinity. It ramps up improbability at your departure point until you are literally everywhere at once since everything is possible, then ramps it back down leaving you at your destination. The offshoot being a whole lot of highly improbable other things happen in the vicinity.

The Total Perspective Vortex is a machine that upon entering gives one a perfect sense of perspective of the entirety of existence (which it derives from a piece of cake.) No one emerges sane. It was invented by a guy to get his wife to stop nagging him.

[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Speaking of Alastair Reynolds, concept of Pattern Jugglers - benign algae-like pools that oscillate in strange image-like patterns and can physically connect, read, and modify human brains. A person entering the Pattern Juggler could experience someone else's life, temporarily gain skills or knowledge, or... die.

In Ursula LeGuin's Left Hand Of Darkness, I love the idea of society without war. There is still violence and murder, but fighting on someone else's behalf must be viewed as incredibly absurd and unacceptable.

Department Of Truth comics are based around the idea "what if what we believe becomes true?". So cryptids, UFOs, and conspiracies exist because enough people believe in them.

The depth and mechanics of Orogenes in N.K. Jemisin's Fifth Season / Broken Earth. It's not just "I cast frost", it's heat and energy manipulation, with sense, direction, and geometry.

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[–] nis@feddit.dk 8 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I can't remember what book it came from, maybe one of Peter F. Hamiltons, but portals was a thing. So naturally the superrich had houses where rooms were not on the same planet. The doors between the rooms looked normal, but was portals to the next room somewhere else.

Especially the toilet tickled me. That was situated on an open raft on a deserted ocean covered planet.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Hyperion, probably.

[–] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is indeed Hyperion by Dan Simmons. Hamilton had really cool use of portals in the Salvation series, though. Among other things, they could:

  • Make people travel (and indeed have distributed houses as well),
  • Source of free energy by placing one end of the portal close to the sun,
  • Solution for garbage by placing one end of the portal into outer space,
  • Geoengineering, for example, by placing one end of the portal above the Australian desert, and feeding it icebergs from the other end.

My favourite use was a protagonist placing one end of a portal on Earth, and smuggling the other onto a penal colony to rescue a prisoner.

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[–] khannie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The evolved species in Adrian Tchaikovsky's "children of time" series. So much thought and detail went into them and he's a fantastically descriptive storyteller. His command of language is superb.

I don't want to spoiler too much beyond that but it's easily my favourite series.

"We're going on an adventure"

[–] vgnmnky@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes, especially the first book, thought that was excellent. Less so for me the third one, and I haven't read the fourth one yet.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Second book was the one for me but the first two were incredible. Third one definitely wasn't as good but I still take enjoyed it. The fourth is out and I have it but haven't started yet.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Elite Dangerous's Frame Shift Drive having both modes of operation with the standard Alcubierre drive which allows you to do FTL by contracting spacetime around your ship (hence frame shift) or near instant system travel by creating a wormhole to travel through.

The catch is that while supercruise has been around for a long time and works just as you expect, the wormhole hyperjump is new reverse engineered tech by captured Thargoid technology.

The drive uses mass to guide the ship to the destination, meaning it can only work by locking onto primary stars of a system. You can only make wormhole jumps between systems but must use supercruise to get to where you actually need within the system.

Also that mass affects its operation:

Being close to any mass will affect the FSD charge time. While being next to a heavier ship will merely make it charge slower, the FSD will get mass-locked should the ship be next to something extremely massive (station, asteroid field, etc.) and will be unable to charge at all.

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[–] lemmyng@piefed.ca 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The wormhole network of the Nasqueron Dwellers in "The Algebraist."

Niling d-sinks, from Peter F Hamilton's Commonwealth novels.

The Planet Express ship from Futurama (it would take too much energy to move the ship at FTL, so it moves the universe instead.)

[–] ashenone@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Planet express ship is cool and all but I think the finglonger takes the cake

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[–] Steve@communick.news 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Since I read Stranger in a Strange Land long ago. I keep coming back to the idea of an indoor lawn.

It's an idea that seems fairly complicated when you get into the details, but also there's no real reason it can't be done.

[–] ashenone@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

I was a building engineer for years and this sounds like an absolute nightmare, but it would definitely be super cool.

[–] fpslem@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I love that, of all the out-there ideas in Stranger in a Strange Land, that's the one that sticks with you. Honestly, I think you're right to favor it! 😄

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[–] elvith@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One thing that absolutely stuck with me as an idea was the plot premise of the short story The Road Not Taken by Harry Turtledove. In this story not only is FTL travel by gravity manipulation possible, but also very very easy to discover. It's so easy that many aliens discovered it early on and then their progress on technology is basically halted. So humankind is a very advanced civilization because we never discovered FTL travel which led to our advanced technology. Then one day one of the "prehistoric" alien races try to conquer the earth and can't grasp what they're up against.

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Spoilers ahoy! (yes, old series. Still.)

spoilerThis sounds like the opposite side of the coin explored in the Worldwar series, where the aliens have sublight drives and very ergonomic military equipment -- but at a level where Earth WW2 kit is close enough to be dangerous.

There are several scenes where the aliens are crowing about how they're going to give medieval knights a whuppin', based on probe data they'd seen from like 1200 AD or so.

Then in a later book, humanity discovers FTL and shows up at the alien home planet with an embassy. The implication was that the alien empire wasn't going to be quite so supreme after that...heh.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

People permanently grafted into ships is pretty cool. That does come up a lot, doesn't it?

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[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

My current favorite topic is the idea of a world ark, a self-contained world adrift in space containing the remnants of life from a doomed world, and the inhabitants aren't aware of it. Intetestingly it has been featured in two different games: SOMA and Genshin Impact. I'm currently working on a TTRPG campaign within such a world.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

piers anthony has a series called I think kirilian quest. There is no ftl and the law of physics as we know them can't be circumvented (I think its been awhile but maybe its real difficult and rarely used). Anyway all civilizations eventually realize astral projection is possible and time and space make no difference. Thing is it takes two types of people to work. People with strong auras can project and people with weak auras can be possesed. Its not a requirement but more it will work better and last longer. Anyway people with the strongest auras get jobs traveling and people with the lowest get jobs as vessels. This is how communication between societies in an intergalactic culture communicate and interact.

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I don’t recall which book. But there was one with truth in advertising laws. I feel like it was Larry Niven. Anyway, the laws were the result of improved sucsess rates for organ transplants. It's really only a side point, but I loved how they were connected.

[–] Murse@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Wormholes always kinda rubbed me wrong in sci-fi. They're always depicted in a way that screams fantasy, not science, with only one exception that comes to mind, which was Interstellar's depiction of a wormhole as a sphere, even taking the time to explain why it looks that way.

The only got it half right though, since as soon as they enter the sphere it's straight back to the fantasy BS with the blue tunnel. That scene could have been a really cool transition of entering the one 'side' of the sphere while exiting the other simultaneously. Cut from the crew's perspective seeing lens-like distortion of the stars, to an external view of the ship moving into the sphere.

I kinda feel like that's how they intended to do that scene, with the whole buildup about the sphere, but decided to throw a nod to oldschool science fantasy for some reason.

Oh well. They got it half right, and that half was pretty fucking sick - it was the first presentation of a wormhole that didn't instantly yoink me out of suspension of disbelief. Until the blue tunnel ofc, at which point, yoink.

To answer OP's question, I guess for me it's less a specific concept as it is presenting something possible only in theory in a believable way. The whole lens-distortion style transition would have been way less flashy, but less can be more.

[–] pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've always thought of scifi being very adjacent to fantasy.

Dune, star wars are basically fantasy stories packaged with scifi elements.

I've always wondered what makes a SciFi story SciFi and I've come to the conclusion that for it to be SciFi it must be an exploration of how technology effects the human condition.

What do you think?

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[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

I love science and technology vs. the supernatural. I think it started with Ghostbusters when I was a kid.

Any time any movie or TV show attempts to battle the supernatural with technology I am glued to the screen. Anything from movies like Oculus where you try to confront an ancient evil with real-life modern tech to inverse movies like Event Horizon where oops...my future tech unleashed evil.

[–] jaycifer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I really like sci fi settings where there is one major leap of physics that has ramifications across the rest of the setting.

Mass Effect is my prime example with the discovery of mass effect fields that allow the manipulation of how much mass things have. This is the basis for local interstellar travel after using a mass relay, as the mass of the ship is reduced for acceleration greater than the speed of light. Artificial gravity is created by increasing the mass of the floor. Guns work by electromagnetically accelerating bullets through a reduced mass field for greater acceleration, while shields work by emitting repulsive mass effect fields.

In The Expanse, the only technological breakthrough that doesn’t feel like a natural extension of modern technology is the Epstein Drive. The only thing it does is make propulsion engines fuel efficient enough that they can burn nonstop between destinations, which allows a ship to constantly accelerate to its destination instead of reaching a maximum velocity then floating the rest of the way there. It cuts down travel times between planets from months/years to weeks, and allows the society presented to exist.

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