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If ONLY there was SOME WAY to Know this would Happen BEFORE the Election!
-Republicans who Do Their Own Research!
Isn't undocumented another word for illegal immigrant? (It's not really a term we have over here so apologies if I got that wrong)
I have nothing whatsoever against people based on their country of origin or skin colour etc, but if you're (or a close loved one is) flagrantly breaking the law and hiding from the authorities by illegally residing in a country, surely you shouldn't be surprised when you vote for the guy that promised to root these criminals out and deport them?
To me, the big news is people who are legally residing in the USA are being gulag'd, not that they're catching illegal immigrants. But yes, this woman was a fool, sadly.
She may be intelligent and capable of learning better, but such is the power of propaganda and brainwashing that it can get us all. None of us are immune.
It's a strong reminder that people can be tricked into working against their own interests, no matter how smart we are. The only thing that will give us a fighting chance are strong Critical Thinking skills. Even then, it's so easy to be fooled and not realise it.
The time to come together in unity and compassion was the election. That's long since passed now. He showed everyone exactly who he was while campaigning for his first presidency, and every single second since then.
If you were still unsure about his leadership qualities, his first presidency was filled with him throwing others under the bus, telling blatant, significant lies with every speech, betraying our allies for political gain, bungling the pandemic response and needlessly destroying hundreds of thousands of lives, spending more time golfing than doing his job, and concluded with him attempting to overturn the election by pressuring states, participating in an illegal scheme that involved fake electors, and inciting an insurrection at the nation's capitol. Oh, and he was impeached twice.
But if racism is the final straw for you to stop supporting this draft-dodging, ableist, lying, rapist, 34-count convicted felon, great; but that was on display, too. He called places with brown and black populations "shithole countries", issued a ban on immigration from Muslim countries, criticized Puerto Rico and dragged his feet on helping them after a devastating hurricane, pardoned Arizona racist Joe Arpaio, convicted for his illegal "worst pattern of racial profiling in US history" (DoJ), harshly cracked down on peaceful Black Lives Matter protestors, including tear-gassing them at a church to disperse them and use the location as a photo-op.
I won't go through all the examples, but the end result is if you voted for him in 2024, you either ignored or approved of his racism. Unfortunately, it's now affecting many innocent people, some of whom you know...
So the guy who has been stiffing contractors for the last 50 YEARS, the guy who calls our servicemen "suckers and losers" the guy who openly bragged about just how hard he was going to fark us all over, the guy who shits in a GOLD TOILET doesn't care about YOU?
That must have come as quite a shock.
Oh save your fucking tears. Your daddy wouldn’t be dying in ICE custody if it wasn’t for you.
Can anyone explain how people with undocumented immigrants in their family were tricked into voting for trump? Makes zero sense to me.
Morons, they are morons.
I wouldn't rule that out, but I also wouldn't jump straight to that conclusion. Spanish news media in this country is beyond screwed, it skews even more right-wing as a rule than English mainstream media, in my opinion. During the 2020 election, I would watch the news on Univision with my mother-in-law sometimes, and would see them just not translate something a democrat said in English that didn't fit their agenda, misrepresent what they said in the translation, or selectively omit things they said to make their remarks sound much more sinister and authoritarian than what they actually said. They were also constantly pushing right-wing conspiracies that had been debunked weeks or months prior, with no mention of their having been disproven.
I would constantly have my mother-in-law coming to me asking about these old ass conspiracies, because with her only knowing Spanish, that would be the first time she heard of them, and she was shocked we weren't freaking out about it.
More leaning to the morons side, despite how Fox likes to portray immigrants as a monolithic group of rabid socialist and commies backing the Dems so they can destroy the constitution and get gulags up and running, a lot of immigrants from Latin America, Africa and the Caribbean have been fairly conservative, in my experience. A lot of them grew up heavily propagandized by right wing regimes in their home countries, many are much more religious than your average American by birth, and others have had negative experiences with nominally left-wing regimes in their home country that they can't get over. The last one can be kind of understandable, but the other two drive me crazy.
My parents escaped Communist Yugoslavia to Australia. Even I started off right wing until about age 30. Therein I voted Greens (not like the dodgy US Greens BTW) and after a while convinced my parents too.
I am still aware of how the extreme left can become authoritarian as happened in Yugoslavia. Tankies are oblivious. Need to be vigilant whichever party you side with.
i take issue with calling tankies left, them saying they're leftists doesn't make it true. "nazi" comes from "national socialist", but that's obviously not what they actually were.
Am not sure that any label can really work perfectly anyhow. I posed to an Australian Greens Senator in the pub the following:
If Greens ever become one of the two major parties then the ruthless power seekers will gravitate towards your party instead of the current major parties. How will the party be able to spot the wolves in sheep's clothing?
His answer was "I don't know. We discuss that often."
Which struck me as the response of an honest and genuine person.
Seems like we need some left leaning Spanish outlets
This is harsh but it definitely seems like a fundamental lack of critical thinking. I genuinely have trouble understanding this behavior otherwise.
I read somewhere that none of Trump's talk of mass, indiscriminate deportation was translated, like in their Spanish language ads. All of the Spanish language ads were supposedly geared towards "nooooo lmao we're only going to deport violent criminals and drug lords!"
They're lying. They weren't tricked. Trump openly and repeatedly showed how he felt about immigrants of all kinds. Everyone knew it, everyone knows it, everyone will always know it.
What actually happened is that these people decided to focus on other things. They told themselves a story about how bad the Democrats are, perhaps, which isn't that hard because there are so many dirty politicians in Washington.
Also, even immigrants can be racist. It's easy enough for someone to think that the other group of "bad" minorities will be targeted, not their own, because they too want someone to spit on. The same thing is true for many poor white MAGA voters too, right? Trump's policies are devastating for rural America, but if you'd rather have hate than healthcare, you're getting what you voted for.
They're lying. They weren't tricked. Trump openly and repeatedly showed how he felt about immigrants of all kinds. Everyone knew it, everyone knows it, everyone will always know it.
This is a cruel delusion you tell yourself, obviously the people you are referring to exist and there are lots of them and they should be shamed the way you are shaming them but there are far more scared, desperate people who feel as total strangers in a crowd of faces that stare at them as if they don't fit in that you casually throw under the bus along with the genuine fascists.. and make that mistake at our peril my friend.
Plenty of people were tricked, no not everybody knew it, heck tons of people didn't even know Biden had dropped out of the presidential race when they went into vote, and no matter how you feel about it I simply will not let you make negative conclusions about immigrants and other minorities that were tricked into voting against their interests without any actual evidence to back it up.
Cite your sources, or stop claiming that immigrants and others weren't tricked. This is a toxic narrative and it must be stopped in its tracks.
It is our job as leftists to speak to these people who are afraid and say "don't take my word for it, see how these people who claim to support you are trying to kill, maim and destroy you and your families", and NOT our job to lambast these people for entering into a cruel battle royale for reasons we could only really ever judge if we were in their shoes and doing badly.
Same as many other trump voters, pure disillusion and desperation with the status quo. They buy the lie instead.
Not sure about this woman, but my naturalized citizen mother is not used to English so she just constantly watch anti-Democrat propaganda from WeChat. 🤷♂️
Edit: I mean we are all legal, but my dad is still a PRC citizen. My grandmother (mother's mother) is still a PRC citizen too.
I guess people seem to just expect the rule of law to be upheld... 🤦♂️
This is so unnecessary. All she has to do is quit being such a cheapskate, and buy a pardon for a few million bucks. It's really as simple as that. For $5 million he can even have a special gold HitlerPig citizenship card.
"All his plans were public but I refused to review them. I thought Project 2025 was a joke because I only subscribe to rightwing media."
I'm upset that people are being harmed. I'm not upset that you feel betrayed.
No. We said the same thing for the last 8 years, and people like you thumbed your nose at us like little children. Consequences of your actions.
Christianity is a social cancer.
Nah. Good luck with that though, dipshit.
"don't shoot yourself in the foot"
"Shoot yourself in the foot to Make America Great Again!"
"I'm telling you man, you shouldn't shoot yourself in the foot"
Shoots themself in the foot
"WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH"
"Told you so"
So now that she’s personally affected by it she wants change lol. But trans people are illegal now so deep down it was still worth it to her.
Selfish people. Its still a me me me attitude, but now she wants everyone else to come and do what she wants to get what she wants.
I'd put money on the fact that if put in a situation where she was asked to help someone else's family first she would say "But what about MY father!?"
At least for once one of them actually seems to regret their vote. Fuck her anyway though, they only care when it personally affects them directly. You voted for this to happen to everyone else, turns out that includes you and your family too, so:
You got exactly what you wanted, Honey. Enjoy your MAGA world.
We needed that 8 months ago when you knowingly voted against it.
Now YOU want it.
Enjoy those tears, you earned them.
"I regret something that I did but only now it's personally affecting me and my family."
I would like to know how she felt when everyone else was getting kidnapped and deported?
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