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[–] catty@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'm starting to wonder how much of these explosions are acts of corporate sabotage.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

This is the way

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Nice. Now they know how to not build that specific one

Trial and error correction people

The best thing is that these launchs are getting cheaper with time

The falcon 9 has an internal launch cost per kilogram of about 1000 USD/KG

If they get starship right (and all evidence points to it getting ready soon) internal launch cost is estimated to be between 200 to 300 USD/KG

We are very close to seeing 25k USD or less tickets to space

Get ready for the future bois, it won't wait for you

[–] antangil@lemmy.world 2 points 35 minutes ago

Oh c’mon.

Cannot possibly spin “blew up randomly during test prep” as a positive outcome. They probably don’t know how not to build that specific one unless they happened to instrument the faulty prop system components - they know that it failed but likely not why or how to fix it.

All evidence points to Starship having a super-finicky MPS that fails on the regular… which probably means they’re chasing performance by removing mass from the MPS and tank structure… which means either this design doesn’t work (totally possible) or that the as-built performance falls short of what was promised.

If you want to stan for Musk, I guess everyone has a type and I’m not going to shame you over it… but blowing up during test prep is not a good news story.

[–] shoo@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

... And we need 25k space tickets why? For a cool selfie?

[–] Dudeonlemmy@lemm.ee 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Why go anywhere in the world? It's all about the experience man, 25k to have experienced being in space is an incredibly unique and cool experience is it not?

[–] shoo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Because the world has actual things in it like people, wildlife, culture and history. Space has none of those things. Unless you're there working as a scientist to study things that can't be studied on earth, it's pointless.

As of now it's a glorified roller coaster. At its best private space travel could be Disneyland in space. At worst it's just rich people paying to be carried up mount everest for clout but with exponentially more resources wasted.

I guess he is actually back in charge of his companies.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Well, at least it was a private company rocket ship and not my tax dollars.... Right?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/musk-government-contracts-spacex-tesla-taxes-b2703141.html

In total, $20.7 billion pleged/paid to SpaceX since 2008, $8.7 billion actually paid as of a few months ago, $3.4 awarded/pledged in just 2024.

Its funny, I remember being raised conservative and being taught that no one spends money as wisely as someone spending their own money.

Welp, thats out the fucking window for all subcontractors, as well as... just give poor/homeless/rent overburdened people money, and they'll help themselves far more efficiently than a giant bureacracy will.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, yes. The advantage of fixed priced contracts over traditional cost plus contracts is that instead of Boeing twiddling their thumbs for three years wasting time trying to figure out why their original design is shit and having the government pay for it, space x is just out a rocket. Government gives 0 shits. I wonder if there penalties built in if it’s behind schedule

[–] captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With a functioning federal government I would agree with you. But unfortunately they have an open checkbook right now, with no accountability or critical oversight.

[–] cole@lemdro.id -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I hate to be this guy, but this is just... not true. That's not how this works at all. How is the government giving SpaceX money outside of a contract? They aren't.

Everyone wants to find a reason to hate SpaceX because Musk, but the truth is SpaceX is a well-ran innovative company.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I hate to be this guy

Then don't be. I'm not sure why you feel the need to glaze the world's richest political agent, unless...

Are you a SpaceX employee? You've said this in the past.

Most people at SpaceX genuinely love the mission and will work longer hours because it's almost a passion.

We're pretty well-compensated too.

[–] cole@lemdro.id -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LWD@lemm.ee 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

"Well-run" implies that of the people running it, i.e. CEO Elon Musk. A quick search on Glassdoor reveals "CEO approval."

I don't expect you to speak negatively about the person who signs your paychecks, especially because he's so obsessed with censoring social media, but when you praise vague "good leadership" and leave it at that, it does make a rational person skeptical.

[–] cole@lemdro.id 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Please read a bit about Gwynne Shotwell. She's amazing and runs the company very competently.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm way more interested on your opinions of CEO (and Chair and CTO) Elon Musk, especially because you'd apparently rather talk about anybody but him.

[–] cole@lemdro.id 0 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

You're looking for a "gotcha" but my whole point is that people are judging SpaceX entirely on Elon being involved, rather than it's actual merits.

My opinion shouldn't matter here.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Besides the federal government trying to strong arm governments into purchasing star link?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/05/07/elon-musk-starlink-trump-tariffs/

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

SpaceX is a well-ran innovative company

their rocket just blew up

[–] cole@lemdro.id 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is not evidence to the contrary, especially when the company is intentionally trying to find the limits on a development article.

Falcon 9 (the only rocket they actually sell launches on) is one of the most reliable launch vehicles in the world.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean you’re right in a sense, but usually when I iterate on a design it gets better not worse.

[–] cole@lemdro.id 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it's not fair to say that iteration doesn't ever include any steps back. Development isn't always straightforward and it doesn't always go perfectly.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Well, I did say usually. Regressions happen. I’m just being sarcastic because I don’t like Nazi-owned enterprises. /me shrugs

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is not evidence to the contrary

besides the whole rocket blowing up thing?

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] LWD@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

It's a good thing those cars had working doors

[–] cole@lemdro.id 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

repeating the same thing does not make your point stronger

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Their unmanned test rocket just blew up. Boo hoo

[–] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is actually a triumph for Musk. SpaceX has figured out how to blow up their rockets without all the cost and time required to prepare for a launch.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

I'm making a note here: Huge Success

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago

They are getting better at blowing rockets. The goal is a 24h turnaround, blow one rocket, bring a new one and blow it again in less than 24h

[–] forgetful_fox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago
[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe we can gaslight him into thinking he's the only one fit to pilot the Starship, making him insist on being aboard it for future tests.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

I mean if he was piloting it, it wouldn’t have blown up! He’s the best and smartest person ever, all the best people are saying it. I think he should definitely pilot them all!

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Early analysis suggests that one of the high-pressure nitrogen gas tanks in the cargo bay ruptured. This would be unrelated to the rocketry aspects of Starship, those tanks are pretty plain vanilla technology and if this is actually what happened it's weird because those tanks are rated for way higher safety margins.

[–] antangil@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago

Maybe. Regardless, problem either in design or build.

Designing under-reinforced tanks indicates that the design can’t make payload and they’re cutting too far into structure allocations to make up for it.

Rupture could also be poor materials (sign of Boeing-style disregard for standards and safety) or a bad weld (same plus maybe training issues on the line). Means they’re running bad QA/QC protocols if the faulty material/construction made it to flight.

Chasing performance at the cost of safety sounds right down Musk’s alley.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

This only matters to me if he was in it at the time so I can organize a party.

[–] THX1138@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Thoughts and prayers... lol

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Aw, it doesn’t actually call out Elmo in the headline. :(

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

Why can’t he just blow up.