linuxmemes

ex arch user for 5 yrs

current fedora user since 2024

i've been getting a lot of "recommended" youtube videos on gentoo and nixos

send help plezz

Arch user (btw) here. I use xorg and a custom tiling window manager. I had 0 breakage regarding my config. Nvidie fked me 2 times and grub was broken 1 time. Thats it. 10 years 3 chroot. Pacman runs when I feel like it. I used two weeks to configure my setup, and I hardly ever change a thing nowdays.

Tried Hyperland on an "old" thinkpad, each update broke something. So no thanks, I'll stick to mature, battle tested components, where my config and sanity will remain stable, and leave the tamagotchi for ricers/thinkerers.

ChatGPT-ass take

Stable over rolling release?

These are not mutually exclusive.

Can haz stable rolling.

E.g. use Gentoo, and avoid the ~ and ** keywords.

Gentoo's all about choice. You can choose to configure it so it does not require hand holding, and running it like a tamagochi. Or you can choose to fiddle with it so much it's very time demanding... not the compiling, so much as the system configuration management. There's official binhost now anyway. But then, if you're fiddling around alot, you'll send emerge to compile rather than just get a binary, to meet all your exacting nuances of configuration.

I have one gentoo that's been rock solid for ... about 17 years, with only one blip of downtime when there was a fire. No hand-holding.

Arch is indeed a different beast. In my experience, it's only a matter of (relatively short) time before Arch eats its kernel or some other catastrophe that requires rescue or abandon.

Respect to Manjaro for what they try do, offer arch with more stability (and conveniences).

On a whim, just now, I made this

But, then, I hear many things have changed in arch, since I last used arch (just before the switch to systemd).... and maybe things have changed, and it does not do that any more...?

::: spoiler ` And then also, can haz arch/artix/etc in a bedrock stratum... then it can carry on in its bloody rolling risky churn, in a safe space, where the more stable strata can pick up the slack when arch tries to faceplant itself again.

Does this include Cachy? I've had it for months now after years of distro hopping and it's been great

Went the other way, moved from Mint 22.3 to OpenSuSE Tumbleweed. Rolling release with solid testing before updates are pushed, any breakage during testing and they don't push that day's update, and if something does slip through and break things, just boot into the pre-update snapshot and wait a day to try again with the next patches.

Up to date packages with low hassle, so as long as I don't need stable-as-in-never-changes, it's great.

Also, nice to have KDE 6 finally and to have KDE not be a forgotten afterthought (Cinnamon is nice but I always feel like I'm limited compared to KDE)

What about you? When did you choose stability over the rolling release?

This is such sloppy engagement baiting. If it was just a hot take shitting all over one of the larger linux communities, that would be one thing, but to follow it up with a "let me know in the comments" just makes it all feel disingenuous and like somebody is being sponsored by NordVPN or Incogni to post their ragebait

Arch really isn't that bad when you're not mucking around with the AUR. Debian is a little overkill for most normal users in respect to stability but it's good people have the freedom to do whatever the heck they want with their machines.

OP never finished an Arch install

Hilariously outdated take.

I've made ~6 Arch systems at this point. None of them have randomly broken on me, none of them have broken after an update and to be honest have been solid. I have no idea where the narrative of Arch being able to destroy itself at any point came from, but I don't think it's true at all.

Early on in Linux journey rolling distros are great.

I started my Linux journey with a rolling distro and I'm thankful for that. It broke every other day I spend hours upon hours on stackoverflow and other forums trying to find solutions and to fix it. That led to understanding linux in general to a greater depth. I'm now on a stable distro because I've a job now but I was only able to land that job because I knew Linux well enough. I know even after 10+ years I'm nowhere near the level others are at but it's about the journey and not the destination. I've grown along the way.

Fedora here...I tried arch once...not for me.

Ok so at first I thought it was actually kind of cute and endearing but by the end I think that guy is an asshole

Been using CachyOS as a daily driver for a year now, for dev work, office work and some media work. It's helped to eek out some extra performance thanks to using build flags for system packages that are built according to modern CPUs.

Would I recommend or for newcomers? Not really. But that's because it still does require using the terminal for system management. But they're also working on fixing that.

I did not expect a Linux outlet to post such an ignorant and outdated take. Disappointed 👎

I think Fedora is best of both worlds, if you want something closer to current Linux kernels/mesa for things like gaming, but don't want to run a rolling release distro like Arch. Been running Fedora for about a year now and couldn't be happier with the transition.

That said, if you aren't gaming and just want absolute stability, no matter what, Mint or Debian ARE the go-to solutions to use. They are the Toyota Hilux of distros.

15 year old install, one issue with crashes because of a regression in nvidia drivers that was solved after a month, I just rolled back till then.

Idk wtf you imagine people doing.

My arch system is so stable it's boring. Year after year, just runs. Doesn't slow down, doesn't install crapware.

So I dont know. I'm happy with it.

I will roll into my grave

I love my EndeavourOS. 💜

to open a python code

This tells you everything you need to know about who wrote this.

That's not a meme BTW, why is this even here.

wtf is this bullshit

and more importantly, why is it so condescending?!

I'm not one of those Arch evangelicals, but this isn't true at all now.

I have been running rolling release with openSUSE Tumbleweed for +7 years, almost 0 issues when updating anything, I even had more troubles when I was running Ubuntu or PopOS.

That post is just pure rage bait to get interactions/clicks and he succeded, now he appeared on Lemmy.

I didn't know that nixCraft was stupid, but now I will keep that in mind, so thank you for the heads up.

I've had infinitely more issues with "apt upgrade" than "pacman -Syu"

I use Debian at work, and need to do 3-5x the amount of troubleshooting than I need to do on my private Arch box. And I'm not doing anything crazy on either. I would even argue my work use cases are less crazy. I also don't think it's about the release model. I think the biggest differentiator is that Arch focuses on KISS, and stuff just keeps working.

May I introduce you guys to Debian Sid? It's the worst of both worlds, I used it as a daily driver for several years. That said, I switched over to Debian stable once the old laptop was downgraded to purely a web browser.

I've been on Garuda for a few years (Arch based) and honestly, it's been super easy. Once Pamac was installed to handle software and updates, learning about AUR and how to access it was the only remotely technical thing I had to learn.

Yeah, some things are in different places than on Windows, but we all had to learn Windows at one point too.