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I don't think this post was written by ChatGPT. I do think the human who wrote it uses ChatGPT so much they're adopting its mannerisms.

ex arch user for 5 yrs

current fedora user since 2024

i've been getting a lot of "recommended" youtube videos on gentoo and nixos

send help plezz

I'm not one of those Arch evangelicals, but this isn't true at all now.

OP never finished an Arch install

What about you? When did you choose stability over the rolling release?

This is such sloppy engagement baiting. If it was just a hot take shitting all over one of the larger linux communities, that would be one thing, but to follow it up with a "let me know in the comments" just makes it all feel disingenuous and like somebody is being sponsored by NordVPN or Incogni to post their ragebait

The first time debian oldstable broke a package after an incremental update, i reconsidered my long running hard stance against arch

Updated my endeavour install last night from 6.18 to 7.1 without issue: daily -Syu is for the birds

Hilariously outdated take.

Why should my pc be stable if I'm not stable

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I boot my arch laptop once in a blue moon and update it. Its not 2002 anymore.

I've made ~6 Arch systems at this point. None of them have randomly broken on me, none of them have broken after an update and to be honest have been solid. I have no idea where the narrative of Arch being able to destroy itself at any point came from, but I don't think it's true at all.

Ironically, it's the rolling release that's much more stable for me.

"Stable" distros often had a long and risky process of upgrading to the next major release.

Meanwhile, my Arch install has been pretty damn stable for over 10 years and went through several different PCs.

For servers ways. For laptop today after last air attack. I know air "isn't" arch. But without it arch has a lot less packages.

Arch user (btw) here. I use xorg and a custom tiling window manager. I had 0 breakage regarding my config. Nvidie fked me 2 times and grub was broken 1 time. Thats it. 10 years 3 chroot. Pacman runs when I feel like it. I used two weeks to configure my setup, and I hardly ever change a thing nowdays.

Tried Hyperland on an "old" thinkpad, each update broke something. So no thanks, I'll stick to mature, battle tested components, where my config and sanity will remain stable, and leave the tamagotchi for ricers/thinkerers.

wtf is this bullshit

and more importantly, why is it so condescending?!

My arch system is so stable it's boring. Year after year, just runs. Doesn't slow down, doesn't install crapware.

So I dont know. I'm happy with it.

I wonder how many Arch haters have actually used Arch and ever ran into a breaking issue.

In my 8 years of daily driving Arch, I have had 1 ever, and it was only bad bc I didn't know of BTRFS yet.

That happened 3 years in, and I went on a new distro-hopping spree in between, trying Fedora, NixOS, and others, and they had actual problems. Not "oh an update broke my system and was fixed in a day."

So now I've been back on Arch for more years.

This whole "Arch is always breaking and takes so much maintenance" is a myth. In reality, Arch is the most stable, because it packages everything Vanilla. Everything works the "standard" way. On Debian, things decay, and then some stuff that's new breaks with some stuff that's old. On Fedora, there is a Red-Hat tax: configs in weird places, strange scripts, software missing from main repos (COPR sucks btw). On Arch, it's just "normal" Linux; and that works

Arch really isn't that bad when you're not mucking around with the AUR. Debian is a little overkill for most normal users in respect to stability but it's good people have the freedom to do whatever the heck they want with their machines.

Stable over rolling release?

These are not mutually exclusive.

Can haz stable rolling.

E.g. use Gentoo, and avoid the ~ and ** keywords.

Gentoo's all about choice. You can choose to configure it so it does not require hand holding, and running it like a tamagochi. Or you can choose to fiddle with it so much it's very time demanding... not the compiling, so much as the system configuration management. There's official binhost now anyway. But then, if you're fiddling around alot, you'll send emerge to compile rather than just get a binary, to meet all your exacting nuances of configuration.

I have one gentoo that's been rock solid for ... about 17 years, with only one blip of downtime when there was a fire. No hand-holding.

Arch is indeed a different beast. In my experience, it's only a matter of (relatively short) time before Arch eats its kernel or some other catastrophe that requires rescue or abandon.

Respect to Manjaro for what they try do, offer arch with more stability (and conveniences).

On a whim, just now, I made this

But, then, I hear many things have changed in arch, since I last used arch (just before the switch to systemd).... and maybe things have changed, and it does not do that any more...?

::: spoiler ` And then also, can haz arch/artix/etc in a bedrock stratum... then it can carry on in its bloody rolling risky churn, in a safe space, where the more stable strata can pick up the slack when arch tries to faceplant itself again.

to open a python code

This tells you everything you need to know about who wrote this.

That's not a meme BTW, why is this even here.

My machines got borked every time I tried to do a Debian or Fedora dist-upgrade following the official guide, like 4 times total. Rolling updates on Arch require manual intervention once in a blue moon and haven't broken my system since I got rid of Nvidia

ChatGPT-ass take

15 year old install, one issue with crashes because of a regression in nvidia drivers that was solved after a month, I just rolled back till then.

Idk wtf you imagine people doing.

Ok so at first I thought it was actually kind of cute and endearing but by the end I think that guy is an asshole

Sincerely, a Gentoo user.

Went the other way, moved from Mint 22.3 to OpenSuSE Tumbleweed. Rolling release with solid testing before updates are pushed, any breakage during testing and they don't push that day's update, and if something does slip through and break things, just boot into the pre-update snapshot and wait a day to try again with the next patches.

Up to date packages with low hassle, so as long as I don't need stable-as-in-never-changes, it's great.

Also, nice to have KDE 6 finally and to have KDE not be a forgotten afterthought (Cinnamon is nice but I always feel like I'm limited compared to KDE)

Early on in Linux journey rolling distros are great.

I started my Linux journey with a rolling distro and I'm thankful for that. It broke every other day I spend hours upon hours on stackoverflow and other forums trying to find solutions and to fix it. That led to understanding linux in general to a greater depth. I'm now on a stable distro because I've a job now but I was only able to land that job because I knew Linux well enough. I know even after 10+ years I'm nowhere near the level others are at but it's about the journey and not the destination. I've grown along the way.

Been using CachyOS as a daily driver for a year now, for dev work, office work and some media work. It's helped to eek out some extra performance thanks to using build flags for system packages that are built according to modern CPUs.

Would I recommend or for newcomers? Not really. But that's because it still does require using the terminal for system management. But they're also working on fixing that.

I use EndeavourOS for my primary gaming setup and will sometimes go a month or more before I remember to update again. Even with a relatively modern nVidia card, it seems to keep up just fine.

That being said, every vanilla Arch experience has been a disaster by the end and while it’s not the same situation as the meme, you very much have to have a ton of prior knowledge to get a system that actually feels personal and by the point it’s personal enough, getting support for your setup is nigh impossible because it’s so bespoke.

Has nix in their profile name and doesn't use NixOS 🤔 /s

Arch really is the "Linux" of Linux users, complete with non users making shit up about it.

Linux Mint user here, I have no idea if Arc is that complicated, I don't care really. All I need is a rock stable system where I can do things like developing, or just use it as "a computer".

I reboot every month or three, and feel extra happy after any interaction with m$ windows.

Life's good 😊

I think Fedora is best of both worlds, if you want something closer to current Linux kernels/mesa for things like gaming, but don't want to run a rolling release distro like Arch. Been running Fedora for about a year now and couldn't be happier with the transition.

That said, if you aren't gaming and just want absolute stability, no matter what, Mint or Debian ARE the go-to solutions to use. They are the Toyota Hilux of distros.

I've had infinitely more issues with "apt upgrade" than "pacman -Syu"

Stay away from the AUR and arch is fine. Calm down

Does this include Cachy? I've had it for months now after years of distro hopping and it's been great

I did not expect a Linux outlet to post such an ignorant and outdated take. Disappointed 👎

Fedora Immutable Desktop users when Arch and Debian users fight about whose system is more stable. (I use Fedora Kinoite btw)