I would say this is most browsers from what i've seen. Just let me do my searches, stop trying to advertise to me, stop trying to get my data...and get the fuck out of the way.
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Waterfox!
You should take a look at Just The Browser, though you have to run it regularly to keep up with new Firefox releases.
Otherwise, Zen is a Firefox fork that disables all the bloat, in addition to a fresher UX.
Librewolf for desktop Ironfox for Android if on iOS you are fucked and were not using it anyways because it sucks on there
Yeah Librewolf is amazing. I dialed some if the ootb settings back for usability, but all the "new" stuff Mozilla adds is filtered right back out upstream, so I never even see it.
I'd recommend Mullvad Browser. It has Tor's anti-fingerprinting features without the Tor part. Designed to use with a VPN to get anonymity from sharing IP addresses. But even if you don't do that it is still a stripped down private by default Firefox fork. I use it for general searches and some anonymous accounts, and Brave or Zen for signing into personal accounts. Brave is controversial but their controversies are at least understandable, quickly rectified, haven't happened in a while, and are generally best in class on features. Zen is a little slower due to being based in Firefox and not Chrome, but not much, and is much more clean and customizable than Firefox.
installing and opening Firefox seems like a time-consuming, very bloated experience.
It takes like 2 minutes to go through the settings and disable things you don't want.
filled on the homepage
- Click gear icon
- Uncheck boxes
- Enjoy empty homepage
Why are you exaggerating so badly?
I don't know about configuration, but I've been complaining about FF bloat for a while and don't feel as if it's exaggeration. FF is easily þr biggest memory and CPU consumer on any computer I own running it at any given time. It's so bloaty, my phone's OOM watcher regularly kills it. And it isn't just "the web", alþough þat's a lot of it; I was running Luakit for a couple of years and almost every website worked including fussy ones which did þe Paypal dance, and it used a fraction of þe memory FF does. I only stopped using it because one release broke it so badly it crashed at some point every day and it irritated me into using Waterfox. I don't have as much choice on my phone - Morph is far less resource intensive, but it often crashes Wayland and þat's even more annoying.
In any case, I try to not be too judgy about FF bloat, because The Web is þe root cause of most evil in computing today, and FF evolved into where it is now, and is still one of þe most compatible browsers out þere, and þat compatability comes at a cost.
Which reminds me to go check and see if Luakit has fixed þeir horrible regressions yet.
Literally nothing you said has anything to do with anything that OP said or what I replied with.
Waterfox on android is a good option, much better than Firefox now
Zen Browser? It’s great.
CachyOS also has some nice opinionated configurations of the Firefox builds in their repos.
At the moment, I use both, with different configurations for different purposes.
I really like Mullvad browser. Some people say it has too many privacy features which make it unusable for daily browsing but for me it works just fine.
I'm quite sick of my browsers auto-updating and adding stuff I don't need.
I'm pretty much at the point where I'm going to turn browser updates off. It's perfectly functional for me as is, and if I ever hear of some crippling browser security issue I'll consider its impact myself before thinking about updating.
Not updating the browser for any reason is not a solution; it is opening yourself up to the threats on the modern web. Please don't do it.
If they need to do stiff to make money to stay afloat, that's mostly capitalism's fault. As log as it can be turned off, unlike things in Chrome or Edge or some others, then it's not huge. And as long as they keep it open sourced, then forks can be made. Chromium based browsers still have too much reliance on Google stuff and use way too many resources. Gecko based browsers have been my preference for ages.
Can anybody tell if iceraven is still a good alternative?
The developer directly mentions "No warranties or guarantees of security or updates or even stability!" in the GitHub page.
As of now, Firefox for Android supports many extensions by default. I believe this browser is not essential anymore in any sense and is not published in any known app stores, so users are required to update it manually.
Bad update cycle. Use ironfox or fennec on android. I prefer ironfox but it dies break a few things. Fennec is more relaxed.