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Is that Jim from The Office!?
Yeah season 21 is crazy, they took a hard sci fi turn about 10 seasons ago and now everyone is split up. They made a whole cinematic universe and its very confusing. Jim was a CIA agent for a while and now he's a post apocalyptic survivor. IMO they're making the character do too much, bir I guess that's what happens when you run out of ideas ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean if you have a better way to make viewers understand what people with hearing impairments go through every day, then I'm all ears.
The worst is when you're watching something with subtitles (in your own language because it's hard to hear sometimes), then someone on screen speaks a different language with the subtitles hardcoded into the video.
Great, right?
Well no, because Amazon's (or Netflix etc, they all do it) subtitles have a big "[Speaks German]" up the entire time, blocking the hard coded subs entirely so you cannot see what they say without temporarily disabling subs. Like bitch, I KNOW THEY ARE SPEAKING GERMAN, MOVE THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY SO I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SAYING
It's so fucking stupid and infuriating. How have they not addressed this shit?
I get a special kind of mad when I watch a foreign film in its original language. Turn on that language's subtitles and the subtitles don't match what's being verbally said because apparently the subs have been translated into English then back into the original language so nothing matches and everything sucks. Or worse when they've translated some idiom for American audiences and have translated that idiom back so what's being said makes zero sense.
That's not going to work for me. I can't read. Can they do a dub?
That’s called audio description, they do it for blind audiences.
My Dad is incredibly dyslexic, and it's a legit issue for him.
Growing up, if a movie or TV show had subs we had to take turns reading it out loud for him. I still have to catch myself trying to do automatically it when we're watching something with other people.
I grew up in a country where movies are rarely dubbed. I was reading the subtitles out loud for my siblings who couldn't read yet for entire movies.
I am conflicted here. On the one hand, I agree that subtitles would have been nice. On the other hand, I think folks with hearing disabilities get shut out of other content so much that I don't think this somewhat solitary case makes it good mildly infuriating material. It's most likely just an oversight. Much less likely a clever scheme to highlight ableism.
I mean, by US law (back when analog TV was standard) all TV broadcasts had to include closed captions on scanline 23(?) for people with hearing disabilities. it was part of the vertical blanking interval so it didn't interfere with the regularly visible broadcast. It is good to include subtitles for all dialogue, spoken in the local dialect, in a foreign dialect, and even the various sign languages. That's isn't to say that yes, I fully agree that differently abled people should be able to take part in the dialog and should have accommodations where needed.
Semi related, did you know American sign language is closer to French sign language than it is to British sign language?
That's either "sign language doesn't work with our speech-to-text algorithm and we'll be throat fucked if we hire an actual person to do a job" or some massively pretentious statement about accessibility in media.
One masquerading as the other
Sometimes, and specifically on Amazon prime, if a show / movie has hard coded subs (for sign or other foreign languages) you will need to turn off the optional subtitle setting.
Of course then, when someone does speak out loud you won't get your normal subs until you turn the setting back on. I used to put in a new complaint for each show that it happened on until i canned prime altogether and went back to pirating all their content.
This film would never work for second screen viewers because the characters would have to nonstop be saying “I’m being really quiet” or “we can’t make any noise, even loud breathing, or the monster will get us”.
What pisses me off about subtitles is when they start displaying lyrics to songs playing in the background.
Although I love it when they subtitle the inaudible-but-foreshadowing news anchor in the background.
SDH subtitles (subtitles for the deaf & hard of hearing) describe all the relevant sounds in a scene including background song lyrics, there is likely to be another plain subtitle track if you don't want that
I see this more and more with shit on streaming services where, for some fucking reason, they strip the subtitles out for the non-native language parts even tho they are supposed to be subtitled for the audience. Like for example I wanted to see the new Ghostbusters the other day since it was on HBO which I have, but half-way through I had to stop it and pirate it anyway, because all the scenes with just the bad guys talking was supposed to be subtitled but they took the god damn subs out. They didn't even translate the dialogue in closed captioning even tho the audience is supposed to know what they are saying!
As a deaf person, why not ? :)
so you’re against accessibility?
I don't think they are against it. I think this is just a rather dark humour way to say this is my everyday normatively
Hey man let the deaf people have one. No need to make about yourself.
Maybe you missed the point.