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[–] T156@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Microsoft seems intent on pushing people to alternatives. Not only did they quietly remove the higher RAM recommendation, but now the OS is more expensive.

So what people are likely to get an underpowered computer that costs more if they have to buy a new laptop. On the tail of Apple recently releasing a relatively nice and cheap laptop to much fanfare, no less.

It sounds like we're about to see a repeat of the Windows Vista days. Where people hate Windows because it's slow and horrible, and it is slow and horrible because it's running on an underspecced machine barely meant to run the previous version of windows.

[–] Loce@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

A year of Linux desktops indeed. I've switched PC and a laptop to Linux and guess what? Works better, faster, more secure and I fucking love it.

Never ever going back to Windows. I might run win10 in virtual pc, but never main host and nothing => 11

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 26 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

They're trying to kill the home PC. They'll have all of the computing power and we'll have subscription access.

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

And they'd get away with it too if it wasn't for those damn Linux distributions.

[–] toadster@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

They literally said that's the plan. Consumers better fight back.

[–] Mataresian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sure in terms in computing power. But Microsoft still needs you to be able to access a windows device so that they can push you onto their subscriptions. I think in this case, they think people will just cough up the extra costs to get windows. Of course at one point even regular people will consider Linux. And that is when Microsoft will break.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like Linux needs to be just a little bit more accessible to the tech-illiterate too. It is getting closer but go show some uninitiated person a Linux forum where power users are talking about maintaining their system daily or weekly, the average person is going to still nope out. I run Linux and and Windows, but if Mac could run more games I'd think about giving them a try because they all suck in their own special way.

[–] Mataresian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Some distros are surprisingly accessible to be honest. And with the enshitification of windows people will be very tempted or pushed to make step to Linux. And when the crossover point is there is can go really quickly. More an more companies are deciding that the cost of Microsoft alone is worth the migration. Exposing even more people to Linux. My biggest barrier is that some online games won't run on Linux but if that changes then why not.

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Lmfao, here comes manufactures selling their own versions of Debian and Fedora. I bet we're going to see a rush of manufacturers selling blank no OS PC's with hardware being the only added on cost.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 6 points 10 hours ago
[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I have no idea why this makes sense? What about hardware getting more expensive justifies the license for software going up? Is this just because they can?

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

Volumes are going to be down, but they want the same revenue, so they increase unit price, comfy in the reality that it will still be, percentage wise, not worth it for most to care. Will it make it unaffordable for some? Probably not appreciably more than the hardware is doing all by itself.

So in short, it is just because they can.

[–] hexdream@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

It makes sense in terms of opportunism, greed, and for laying three groundwork for a future where you do not own your own computer but do everything in the cloud (because that is where the power is). Remember the whole "you will.own nothing and be happy" thing... so same argument as when businesses moved from self hosting on site. Short version, they want you with a subscription for everything and they can control everything you do.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 13 hours ago

Pretty much. If hardware is constant lly going up and consumers put up with it, why not get a slice of the pie? It's not like an OEM buyer will reconsider just because of a few bucks for Windows, if they were going to buy anyway.

[–] benny@reddthat.com 9 points 13 hours ago

Gotta pay off those data center loans.

[–] djsiete@sh.itjust.works 71 points 19 hours ago (15 children)

Why am i hearing Linux music?

[–] wizardfrag@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The Tux trumpets are getting louder…

[–] hume_lemmy@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago

The lyrics are in C!

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

I've been hearing Linux music for the past 9 years lol it's incredible how much it's improved as a desktop OS over that time.

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 18 hours ago

Blastbeat of millions of penguins stomping.

[–] Argyle13@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This. Linux use on the USA is now over 10% in computers. And growing. I hope Europe follows the same path, but it is slow. Growing also. At home we all have ditched Windows years ago.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Really? I was thinking Europe would be leading in Linux adoption, kernel originating from Finland, distros like SuSE, NixOS etc.

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 1 points 12 hours ago

Somebody needs to finally compose a Linux install music that's even more memorable and awesome than the Windows XP install music

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I wish that Microsoft licenses of Windows Enterprise were sold to individuals, much like Windows 7 Ultimate. The lack of a good Windows option is why I don the tricorn hat and sail the Masgravel Sea, RUFUS in hand.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 33 points 20 hours ago

This is the way of the world right now.

"Oh no, things are going bad for us, raise prices so we will be OK when this dies!"

Screw the future. Sad times.

[–] kimara@sopuli.xyz 30 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't expect my PC to become a better investment than my house - until the bubble pops.

Now I also know the feeling of buying something when it was more affordable. I can now dish out advice like "You should just buy fewer boba teas, so you could afford a PC like I did when buying it with my student loan."

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 10 points 20 hours ago

Every RAM stick I bought in the past 15 years is worth more per GB now than when I bought it... If you bought RAM in 2008 the same is true, I just didn't buy RAM at that point.

[–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 40 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

To me this is positive news. The less appealing Windows machines are, the better. Let Windows PC rot peacefully.

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 27 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

While I understand your sentiment about Windows, this is how you end up in a world filled with iPad kids who become adults who accept technology that they don't own.

[–] verily@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 16 hours ago

Walking down the aisles of any store selling computers, I can attest to this. If a company can't sell a Windows computer, they will simply sell a Chromebook instead.

[–] TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Or a manufacturer finally decides to make a budget Linux laptop that starts selling better than expected.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 13 hours ago

BURN BABY BURN

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 40 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

So the computer without Windows/with Linux will be cheaper, right/ 🥹

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[–] Novice_Idiot@lemmy.wtf 28 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I would love if pc manufacturers would just ship laptops with e.g. Linux mint or fedora and just knock off the windows licence cost. I don't even mind if they have to ship it with bloatware, that's fine, as long as it just doesn't ship windows. Savvy users will just uninstall it

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

It's possible to get refunds for unused OEM Windows licenses in the EU.

https://en.refund4freedom.org/

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[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 88 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I am starting to thing this entire thing is some weird orchestrated pile of bull shit to get pwople to stop buyingPCs because its cheaper to use rented VMs with AI spyware built in. Just point your old "slow" compiter at the server in your browser (only spyware Chrome supported). Then they can DRM everytjing and charge subscriptions.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 18 hours ago

I don't know if that's the entire thing, but it is definitely part of it

[–] LedgeDrop@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 day ago

Bingo!

It was always believed that Windows OS was a "loss leader" for Microsoft.

Windows OS will never show a profit, when you take into account the development and testing time and effort. I mean, a one time purchase that's expected to be supported for years!?!

Side note: This also explains why Windows 11 is de-evolving into an AI generated, ad ridden, telemetry gathering, cesspool of an OS ("we gotta make money somehow - think of the share holders")

But, what Windows had done is create a platform for Microsoft to upsell (and vendor lock-in) profitable applications like Office, Outlook, Teams, etc.

However, that business model doesn't work anymore. As, all of Microsoft's products are now in the cloud. They're all subscription bases, which means predictable and indefinite revenue. User's don't need to be running on Windows - they just need a web-browser or thin-client. Microsoft already has people (brainwashed into) wanting Office - they don't need to _force _ people into trying Office.

tl;dr: Developing and supporting Windows OS is a financial drain for Microsoft, and they're doing everything they can to scuttle it.

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[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 298 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (31 children)

More OEMs should ship devices with Linux as an option, discounted by the Windows license cost.

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