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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

Canadas taken its toys and gone home. The US hasn’t figured out it doesn’t have its own to play with yet.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 43 minutes ago) (2 children)

The followup article with Kinew moreorless matches my opinion on it. This isn't going to be resolved this Election cycle. Carney really needs to just say "At this point trade negotiations are a waste of time and will not be looked into until at least 2028 and then we will go from there" because it's clear even if optimal conditions are met, this US administration wouldn't be trusted to actually follow the agreement regardless, and making concessions with the US over it is just going to get in the way of the Canada first mentality they are attempting to head towards.

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 minutes ago

The strategy should be to undo our reliance on the US for any trade at all and establish better global relations. Regardless of who comes into office in the future, the US has demonstrated they are not a stable or reliable partner in any respect.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 28 minutes ago

moreorless

? that's three words...

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

distract from Epstein files -> distract from war -> distract from tarrifs -> distract from Epstein files -> distract from war -> distract from tarrifs -> distract from Epstein files -> distract from war -> distract from tarrifs -> distract from Epstein files -> distract from war -> distract from tarrifs -> distract from Epstein files -> distract from war -> ...

Anybody keeping count?

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 hours ago
[–] 4TBHMeCCL@suppo.fi 1 points 1 hour ago

If you want to read a Canadian perspective on this, CBC has an article on this exact thing.

[–] Danika7@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Let The Fun Begin! - Critical Minerals/NOPE - More Hydro Electric Energy/NOPE - Canadians Drinking American Booze/NOPE - Canadians Deciding To Visit The States In Big Numbers Like They Used To Before/NOPE - It's high time that our Canadian government, and all Canadians stand unwaveringly strong on this never ending train of ridiculous tariffs! ✅

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 30 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Matching "dollar for dollar" is dumb. We have to do things that hurt us little while maximizing their squeal.

Digital Services Tax needs to go in immediately. Tax exports of electricity and fuel. Lift trademark and patent restrictions. Repeal or amend the Copyright Modernization Act to eliminate DMCA style fuckery.

We can hurt them while benefiting from removing their shitty policies forced on us.

We should not try to fight toe to toe.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

For every $1 we get, they get $10.

Two fucking idiots posturing.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Canada owns near to half a trillion dollars in US bonds. Wonder what would happen if that was sold all at once?

We just saw the US bail out Japan (which owns about 1.2 trillion) to avoid Japan selling those bonds to bail themselves out. Really stupid of them to do that and then the next week play hard ball on another country that owns sizable chunk of US debt.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Wonder what would happen if that was sold all at once?

Canada would take a massive loss on the sale while the private markets and the Federal Reserve casually absorbs the influx of new notes at a discount.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

It would definitely be dumb to let them go all at once. You'd want to dovest carefully. Or do some bond swaps, perhaps. Exchange some for euros or yuan.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm not talking about US dollars, I'm talking about bonds.

[–] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 hours ago

We need to do like Europe and get our government administration off of US tech companies

[–] TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck the States. Sell them no minerals. Buy no products.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Canada and the US engage in bilateral trade across the supply chain. And they are on generally good terms with the northern liberal neighbor states.

Canadians would be better off working with their US neighbors to evade tariff collections than increasingly the policing on people who share a broad class interest

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

Fuck America. I'd chew off my own arm to deny them the meat.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 hours ago

Despite the US offer to Canada to receive the best treatment of any major exporter to our market. new demands and walk backs of other commitments by Canada have upended the careful balance reached in the past days," he said, "This is a missed opportunity for Canada to partner with the United States, which is the fastest growing economy in the G7," the USTR added further

yeah, I don't care. you don't settle for a weekend of preferential treatment by an abusive partner

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 hours ago

This trade deal thing was always kind of a wishy-washy. On one hand we don't want people to lose their jobs and face economic hardship. On the other hand we don't want to give in to the US. Americans think it's about Trump, but we know that while some of his tariffs would be dropped by another President, not all of them will be. This is how it's always been with trading with the US. Trump is more extreme than most Presidents, but Americans in general don't deal with us honestly.

This is going to be rough. People lose their jobs on both sides of the border. But at least now there's clarity. No more maybe we should make a deal maybe we shouldn't. Now there's only: Let's fucking go!

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

Fuck Trump. FUCK THE US.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 19 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

Bravo to Carney saying no and to Canada standing on their feet! I stand with Canada, Elbows up!

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 23 points 9 hours ago

Canadian dollar to US dollar, seems good.

Besides, standing up to him is the only way to deal with TACO.

Spit in his face and wait 'til Tuesday.

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 45 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Good for Carney. I wish more world leaders would stand up for themselves.

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