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I was talking to one of my friends and he mentioned staying home on July 4, citing how there are a lot of really ugly things going on in the US.

After thinking about this myself, I'm starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I'm feeling like I'm just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.

The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare, I don't feel very confident in our government at all, the job market is a nightmare...

I think I'll be staying home this year too... anyone else?

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[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I'm going out to a march on the 4th of July. We're protesting for independence from America

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’ve never been more ashamed to be an American.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

well, at least you've got the knowledge that I'm proud of you for that

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm a-shamed to be an A-merican,

Where at least now I can't see.

And I won't forget the libs who cried,

Who gave that right to me.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Flags have become a warning over the last decade or so about the person waving it. It no longer has the hope of a better America, solidarity, or welcome; it’s a symbol of a myopic, selfish, aggro, uneducated person full of performative nationalism and real hatreds.

Our independence was supposed to free the people of kings and tyrants. It’s been 249 years since 1776, we have undone what the Constitution authors fought for.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Our independence was supposed to free the people of kings and tyrants. It’s been 249 years since 1776, we have undone what the Constitution authors fought for.

That's what happens if you stick with a quarter-millennium old prototype of a semi-democratic system.

The constitution was revolutionary and ground-breaking, a quarter millennium ago. But still running that old piece of toilet paper as the basis of a democratic system in 2025 is like driving a Ford Model T today and claiming that it still is the latest and greatest automobile ever created.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I always find irony in the fact that the US helped set up better forms of government in the countries it fought in WW2, Japan and Germany, than it could make better in its own country.

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[–] canajac@lemmy.ca 3 points 16 hours ago

How many will die on July 4th? What parade will be targeted? Who will be the next mass murderer? Stay home for your safety people. Too many crazies out there now to do anything in public.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 16 hours ago

Can't type.... Robot AI dog is following me....gotta keep running. Freedom!

[–] dodgeflailimpose@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago

I would welcome a brain drain to Europe.

[–] dodgeflailimpose@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago

i never understood how people especially can be proud of once country. in Europe being a patriot is very much frowned upon.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

I get double pay for the holiday, yay!

[–] tarknassus@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Aww. Please celebrate - don't give the orange turd the satisfaction of destroying yet more American culture. Also, I won't be happy posting my favourite annual meme:

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[–] InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Yep, not celebratin shit. Wife wants to invite friends over mostly cuz it’s a free day off.

[–] Gismonda@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

The ONLY reason I give a shit about July 4th this year is that it’s a long weekend and the last chance we’ll have to spend with family before we move out of state in two weeks.

I’m even glad it’s supposed to rain the entire time, so I won’t even feel pressured to celebrate with fireworks!

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Not at all, but I'll take the paid day off

Nobody i know is hosting or attending a formal celebration, aside from one person attending a "Fuck Trump" bbq instead.

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

The only celebration I will engage in this year is protest or subversive guerilla action

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 16 hours ago

I'm a pyro by nature, and love things that go boom. But yeah, not doing anything tomorrow.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I find it reassuring that some people are not proud of grabbing random people off the street to send them to their death with a smile.

[–] expr@programming.dev 4 points 19 hours ago

That's the majority of Americans. Beyond what was almost certainly a stolen election (large scale, billionaire-bankrolled propaganda, campaigns, voter disenfranchisement, and probably voting machine manipulation), Trump's disapproval rating since starting that shit has skyrocketed.

We are in an awful fascist quagmire of a situation that we are going to have to fight to free ourselves from, but that doesn't mean that the actions of this administration actually represent us.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

4th of July? You mean the Ungrateful Colonists Insurgence Day?

[–] LoboAureo@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

Me, but not from USA, so....

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

While walking the dog I keep tabs on houses that have flags up, and there has been an uptick for about a month now. I assume it’s for the 4th, but I’m curious who will keep their flags up.

I’ve also noticed that some people keep putting theirs up then taking them down, and I wonder what changes…

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago
[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Yeah I am sitting here in my shitting rotting trailer that I own thinking to myself fuck America.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 119 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Not being American I always found the whole thing very creepy. Like, North Korean military parade-creepy.

For the record, we don't have anything like that where I'm from, but the closest things we do have are also very creepy. Patriotism in general is extremely not cool, honestly.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

Patriotism is very cool. Nationalism isn't, which has mostly subverted the term patriot. A patriot stands up when their nation is doing something wrong. They don't blindly believe they're the best, they recognize that there's things they can improve. They fight to make their country better, not to make others worse.

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[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I screencapped this many moons ago on Reddit, I feel that it's apropos

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[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.cafe 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Obama was the last president that made me believe the US was trending towards progress. He proved to be a let down on many issues but I was still hopeful that the next president will be better. On many issues the country seemed to be heading in the right direction, there was even a plan for a national high speed rail network.

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[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I thought you guys don't celebrate it that much any more? Heard it got replaced with a Trump Birthday Military Parade Day or someshit. And it sucked so much that nobody is doing holidays anymore. Sorry, I'm in Europe, the news are coming in slowly from the US these days

[–] expr@programming.dev 5 points 20 hours ago

Not sure what you're referring to, but the 4th hasn't really changed. Maybe you're confusing it with the (laughable) military parade Trump did for his own birthday?

Personally I've long found patriotism to be a pretty abhorrent concept, but I've always enjoyed the opportunity to spend time with my family regardless. To me, the 4th is much more about community than it is the country. And while this country is fucking awful, I do have a pretty great community around me that I'm grateful for.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 1 day ago

I haven't felt patriotic for July 4 since I was a teenager. And I grow more aliented every year.

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