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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sanders’ team realized they could harness the energy bubbling up around the country following Trump’s return to power and launched the “Fighting Oligarchy” tour, a series of arena-scale rallies that drew crowds as large as 35,000. Internal numbers from the Sanders team showed 40 to 50 percent of attendees weren’t Democrats at all — roughly 30 percent were independents and 10 percent were Republicans.

That tour also doubled as a talent pipeline. Sanders’ team worked each stop to feature working-class speakers, people they would like to see represent the future of the movement — and several of them went on to become candidates themselves.

I remember lemmy's centrists dismissing the Fighting Oligarchy Tour as pointless since the election was already over. I also remember speculating at the time that what Sanders was doing was building a movement.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Folks were pretty demoralized after the election, and we were still dealing with the shock value of the admins full on blast of constant evil, so I'm not surprised folks were claiming there was no point to anything.

.That being said, there's a lot of folks round here who seem to hate on Bernie at any opportunity

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What the Democrats did to Bernie in 2016 and 2020 is why I will never vote for another centrist as long as I live.

Let the DSA's burn the shit hole down.

[–] Awooooooga@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (36 children)

Voting for a centrist is better than letting the Republicans destroy your Republic.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is nothing better than seeing that republic destroyed.
Lesser evil BS

[–] Awooooooga@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago

I do not really want to deal with a dying dog lashing out

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Member when a centrist bailed out all the big banks and told the working class to go die?

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

No, a willingness to do it is what gives them the confidence to keep doing it. Keep up the Bernie or bust mentality until they bust.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

Voting for a centrist is voting for someone who will happily assist republicans as long as they get to also assist netanyahu.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip -1 points 22 hours ago

Voting for a centrist vs a progressive in the primaries is fucked up. Voting for a centrist vs a republican in the general at least slowly reduces the ratchet effect (though sadly it’ll happen regardless).

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

pretty sure bernie votes for what this guy thinks is a centerist.

[–] Awooooooga@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bernie is a smart guy and has urged his dumbass supporters to vote Democrat even if they aren't as left as him because the alternative is a fascist nightmare that will tear the country down and try to take the rest of the world with it.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 22 hours ago

just to be clear im a supporter of him. they are not all dumbasses. but yeah the lets not make sure the nazi party wins any election is dumb.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Your daily reminder that BlueMAGA liberals don't consider Palestinians human

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

Centrists are "destroying the republic" too, capitalism is inherently unsustainable and cannot be saved. Revolutionary socialism is the only path forward, and if we do not succeed then we will decay into barbarism, no matter which capitalist party is at the helm.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Some of our "centrists" are the ones voting lock step with Republicans to do so.

Also calling them "centrists" is just falling for the corporate psyop. They are conservative democrats. Not centrists.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Sanders being the left-wing mirror world reflection of Goldwater, with someone like AOC being the future anti-Reagan, is quite a hopeful vision. Since I feed on optimism, I can get behind that.

It's still a long shot, but I always think what if? What if 2028 will mark the end of the era of socialism for the rich, and capitalism for the poor?

Before anyone interjects

The anti-Reagan doesn't have to be AOC necessarily, it could be El-Sayed or even Hasan Piker for all I care. But Sanders' Fight Oligarchy tour with AOC is something akin to a preparation for him to pass the torch.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

And Angie Nixon being the anti-Nixon

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i keep on wondering what if gore had been president instead of bush jr.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If less than one percent of Nader voters in Florida had voted for Gore instead, he would have won the state and and the country. Voting matters.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 22 hours ago

yup. clinton/gore knew about alkida so likely no 911 or patriot act and supreme court decisions that would be different. wow. thats besides the point that gore ran on dealing with environmental issues.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sliding doors, dude.

I have a disease that is treated very well by cannabis. Like lost organs bad of a disease, and there's a ~50% chance I'd still have the organs if I'd been a pothead in high school (it has been a matter of not a small amount of theoretical debate). Some "what if" hallways, if your mind goes down it does not come back the same. Just leave the door closed.

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Huh... I've had the same kind of philosophy for a long time. Except I would explain it like you're in a long hallway, with doors on either side all along the way... be careful to stay in the hallway, because sometimes you might go through a door and not be able to easily come back. Crack a door and peak, if you must, but try and stay in the hallway

It was mainly a tool I used for maintaining mind during a hallucinagenic trip, but has stayed with me as a tool for "regulating myself", so to speak. Interesting that you describe basically the same concept

i strongly believe in the concept of convergent evolution. i don't know what it was, but sounds kind of like something eerily similar inspired us to develop a mental regulation tool we use in an eerily similar manner as you. fun, huh? ain't nothing original under the sun. maybe we were both independently and nonconsecutively watching the shining and knew the tub scene was coming up and asked our various loved ones' ghosts to cover our eyes for us because we are delicate, and now we run down corridors in our minds. maybe we like doctor who. idk.

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