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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 hours ago

google fucking up my country, as if i couldnt hate them enough already

[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 41 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This is TERRIBLE! And to make sure it DOESNT happen AGAIN we're going to Write a SEMI STERN LETTER while they PROCEED with Construction!

-The Finnish Government?

[–] Dreamcatcher@lemmy.zip 15 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Very likely, considering which political parties are in charge.

I call this government coalition "persrukous" (ass prayer):

pers: persut, short for "Perussuomalaiset" (Finns Party, far right)
ru: Suomen ruotsalainen kansanpuolue (Swedish People's Party of Finland, centrist liberal, will do anything the coalition wants as long as everyone is forced to learn the language of the 5% linguistic minority, it's always been like this no matter who the governing parties are)
ko: Kokoomus (National Coalition Party, centre-right/right wing liberal conservative, your typical neoliberal demons who only care about making the rich even richer and punishing the poor for existing, they lead the coalition)
us: uskovaiset = the religious = Kristillisdemokraatit (Christian Democrats, right wing, they're pretty much NCP but they love Israel even more and hate everything)

[–] Taalen@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Stealing persrukous. Until now I've settled for Ikea cabinet, but that was mostly inspired by the formation days. It took forever to build It looks like it could fall apart at any moment Dangerously leaning to right

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Are they taking the Hobbits there?

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Yet another loophole in human trafficing laws.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2 points 13 hours ago

What did you say...?

[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As Finnish newspaper Kalevareported last month, Google is under fire for clearing over 300 hectares — the equivalent of almost 500 football fields — for two new data centers in the northern part of the European nation without concluding the necessary environmental assessments.

Despite the assessments still being in progress, the tech giant’s contractors started clearing trees in the area months ago, raising the alarm bells at the Finnish Nature Conservation Association.

“Either this is gross incompetence from Google’s Finnish project company, Tuike Finland Oy, or gross disregard for Finnish legislation, or at worst both,” said the association’s chair, Hanna Halmeenpää, in a statement, as translated by Wood Central.

For those who haven’t looked at it

Google razed the forest without the environmental assessments to whether they could do that or not, aka ‘fuck your laws and the wildlife’

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 21 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Fine them $1 billion per tree. Seriously. It has to really hurt them, or it will just be "the cost of doing business." It has to be bad enough that they must sell off a division or two, and their stock has to tank 33% or more, so they, and everybody else watching, takes a hard lesson from it.

[–] foo@feddit.uk 5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Or start holding the decision-making executives criminally liable.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, that, too.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Won't happen. I hope I'm wrong. But I don't think I am.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 6 hours ago

It's up to us, we have to force politicians to do it.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

It's a bit more complicated. Tuike tried to argue that the project wouldn't need that assessment as it wasn't being done as part of commercially selling trees from a natural forest as a "natural resource" as the law was worded, and they tried to ask for a "case by case" exemption that would allow them to start the clearing without having to wait for the whole lengthy assessment process to go through the systems. That exception got rejected because "Forest nature does not only mean forests in their natural state, but also forests used for forestry" (the Finnish words being "luonnonvara", "metsäluonto" and "luonnontilainen metsä".)

They might have been technically fine had they not sold any of the trees. But, I mean, what else can you do with 300 hectares of trees?

Finnish source from HS.fi.

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

shocking no one, laws are worded in complicated ways that lawyers will take full advantage of.

[–] stinkytofuisgood@lemmy.ca 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

You know how people have been doing those horrible crimes where they destroy datacentres?

I hope people don't realize the same thing can be done to places like Google's offices. But if they do, I also hope they'd be responsible enough to make sure no low/mid level employees were in the building. I bet, and this is just too sad, that the executives would be the prime targets 😔

That would be tragic. Super duper tragic.

So tragic.

Tragic.

[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 4 points 12 hours ago

I fixed that for you.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

If they needed a moral reminder, they were nutz from the very start.

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 123 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The "move fast, break laws, reap profits, socialize losses" strategy.

Fuck em. Fuck em all with a fork in the eye.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago

"move fast and break things" applied to the ecology and humans. Except without the "fix it" stage

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Gross “We did it knowing nobody was going to prosecute us because Trump and that’s what bribes are for” reasons.

[–] Dreamcatcher@lemmy.zip 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

The fact that this has 62 upvotes is making me lose brain cells.

This happened in Finland. The guy in charge is Petteri Orpo.

Edit: And his asshole cabinet of ministers.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago

Basic conservatism.

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Now I wonder why you only see ethics neglecting data-centers in the US.

[–] LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Because it’s the only one currently where the governing bodies are puppets of the Epstein class.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 22 hours ago
[–] TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Better to pay the small fine, than ask permission.

Fuck the techbros, fuck AI, fuck data centers, fuck billionaires.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is what I'm expecting with the Palantir CEO dude buying up a bunch of forest in Sweden recently. The statement is

Den nya ägaren av skogsfastigheten är mån om markens skönhet och dess bevarande. De vidsträckta, naturliga skogslandskapen erbjuder värdefulla livsmiljöer för växter och djur, samtidigt som de utgör en plats för rekreation och återhämtning

The new owner of the forest property cares for the beauty of the property, and its preservation. The wide, natural forest landscapes provide valuable living space for plants and animals, while simultaneously providing a spot for recreation and respite.

We have "allemansrätten" here, as in you can go to and camp more or less anywhere. You don't need to own the property to enjoy its natural beauty, or recreate there.

It's definitely going to be used for something vile. A datacentre or something.

[–] mobyduck648@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

With that motherfucker it'll be something vile or the kind of concentrated cringe that makes your earwax melt just sharing a biosphere with it.

Probably both.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Incompetence" implies it was unintentional. This was completely intentional.

"Disregard of the law" implies there is some law against this. Any law that will not punish the offender is not a law. So there was no "disregard" of any law in this case.

Sundar Pichai is a conservative. His company leadership reflects conservative values, such as destruction of the environment, supporting genocide, supporting war and supporting fascism.

Conservatism is cancer. The disease has metastasized and has infected most major corporations in the U.S., including Google. I'm not sure a cure is possible, but the treatment for it is not peaceful or pretty. We would need thousands more people named Luigi to be willing to perform heroic, selfless acts.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

These sociopathic bastards think that anything that isn't explicitly illegal under the law has social consent. The asshole Microsoft CEO even said as much publicly.

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[–] RidgeDweller@sh.itjust.works 5 points 23 hours ago

Ecodefense is a pretty good and relevant light read!

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

When the fines aren’t big enough, they’re just the cost of doing business.

Penalties for fuckery like this should be at GDPR levels, meaning a percentage of global turnover of the parent company.

that's the entire point of fines, to internalize external costs.

If it's still profitable after full enforcement of fines then either the fines were not correctly set or the buisness model is a net positive.

[–] joseki@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Just levying fines and imposing jail sentences doesn't go far enough, it's a 19th century solution to a 21st century problem.

Corporate personhood and limited liability need to be abolished and private enterprise needs to be re considered from first principles for the modern era.

It corporations are people, there needs to be a death sentence and involuntary psychiatric commitment .

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[–] Gumus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago
[–] myyass@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Wasn't their slogan, "Be as evil as possible" ?

[–] EliteCloneMike@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Google needs to be broken up and regulated. That they were not found to be a monopoly by Judge Mehta was a travesty. I probably don’t have to convince anyone here about how bad Google is, but seeing as they keep pulling nonsense like this and causing environmental harm is ridiculous. They need to keep growing forever for the sake of investors, no matter how much harm they cause. I avoid their services like the plague. Sorry to go on and on, but Google is one of the worst companies out there right now, closely tied with Meta.

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[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Add it to KilledByGoogle.com

[–] drakej@feddit.online 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember when they put climate scores for all publicly traded companies on their Google Finance? It's almost like they never a mean a single thing they say.

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[–] eicker@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Google’s green image looks increasingly like a marketing layer over an industrial land grab. A company worth trillions wants ever more land, power and water for AI, and now it’s accused of clearing Finnish forest before environmental assessments were complete.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago

Google’s green image looks increasingly like a marketing layer

🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The things that truly "slipped their leash" recently are the fucking tech companies.

[–] mobyduck648@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

They need a good humbling, and their own hubris will be the thing to do it.

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