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What a shit report, honestly. "It is said", "according to reports", "the Kyiv Independent reported", and my favorites "after breaking a test tube". Go notice, Lyudi Baikal "RadioFreeEurope", "RsdioLiberty". We are dicking doomed.
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Huh that's craaaazy lol.
Plague is caused by a bacterium not a virus!
Here we go again. How do you accidentally break something that you have to handle so gently. And you've handled so gently countless and countless times.
Did you ever watch the first Resident Evil movie? Someone just tossed a vial and said woopsies lol
Is that lab owned by the Zontik (зонтик) Corporation?
Yes. =)
Early 2000s FPS and action movies were right all along. The Russians really do seem villainy..
This sounded like an accident
There are cases of Human plague, caused by Yersinia pestis, in the United States now.
Sure, but they got Ivermectin
Actually, there always have been since introduction, especially in the american southwest. It was never eradicated here.
You're not kidding. There's a small small cave in California over by Mammoth that people said if you go into it you will get sick and die because it's filled mice and plague.
For all folks concerned of massive epidemic:
Also, to those concerned that this is a biological weapon lab:
looking at how people react in regards of vaccines, masks, and medical misinformation, I think even a common cold can be a successful bio-weapon
Yeah, people seem to think the plague is extinct? There are yearly cases of plague in nearby Mongolia for example. It's also not usually as easy to spread compared to viruses like influensa. It's still a scary thing to think about, but nothing for us to worry about really...
yersinia pestis is a zoonotic disease, it never went away. its only the plague flea+black rat that was the problem in medieval times, i think it was combination of stray dogs+cats that helped it. its still in wild rodent populations.
I am pinning my hopes on a random Lemmy commentor.
I hate this timeline.
This random commentor happens to be a Russian microbiologist, so you're in pretty safe hands.
(No, I do not develop biological weapons, nor am I aware of any such facilities)
I mean unless they are somehow trying to develop an antibiotic and vaccine resistant strain of the plague? If it were the case then it is almost 100% a bioweapon research at best under the guise of bioweapon security. But I don't know if this person is a bioweapon researcher or a public health researcher.
my fear is dumber than that, people just wont wanna take the vaccine and antibiotic and there will be this weird disease loving faction that does great damage to the greater society.
Lol another twist on bioterrorism
Yes it is much cheaper and easier to convince people to not use vaccines and other proven medical interventions than it would be to create a novel virus. Look at the idiotic life threatening things people are willing to do to follow a TicToc trend or Insta. Not to mention all the idiocy they will follow due to AI. Those are the 'deadly viruses' people should be fearing.
I mean unless they are somehow trying to develop an antibiotic and vaccine resistant strain of the plague?
That would be unwise as you'd ideally want to have an antibiotic available for your own troops in a war. We also pretty much know about all of Russia's bioweapon work after the cold war ended, there's even an Anthrax island site they abandoned.
Fortunately bio weapon research is even more niche today than it was at the height of cold war tensions and all nations have cut back and destroyed big chunks of their stockpiles.
Also keep in mind that things like leprosy still occur in the USA (Florida is even seeing a small increase in cases) so it's not necessarily that uncommon or a cause for concern. Things like the plague, leprosy and even strep throat (known as scarlet fever back when it regularly killed kids and routinely caused deafness in survivors) and easier to cure/treat thanks to modern medicine. The hygienic practices we have these days also help keep these things from breaking out like they used to.
This would be the most stupid and inefficient biological weapon. Again, we have the vaccine AND the cure.
Erm, Actually. It's obvious they're still researching the Suppression and Sympto-Statis gene tech so they can sneak the plague into other countries without panic.
You casuals wouldn't understand. 😏 /s
How could Joe Biden and the Democrats let this happen! They're only doing this yo make Trump look bad, and after the election it will conveniently disappear.
Anyone who wants something extra to feel anxious about should read the hot zone by Richard Preston. It's about Ebola, not plague, but it's. . . alarming. Ebola is a virus, not a bacteria like plague, but the difficulty of containment even in secure labs, and the possibilities of mutation - as far as I know, they're not dissimilar. Especially if a government lab has been fucking around trying to weaponise it, as I suspect happened here.
I will never understand the thought behind weaponizing diseases. They kill indiscriminately, even you, the developer or the president who orders it's release. Anybody who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.
I think the idea is to develop a vaccine or cure along with the disease so you can deploy that selectively.
Doesn't make the idea any better though.
Especially because diseases obviously mutate and the cure may then be ineffective!
'Anti' plague research.
Does the author not know that there's a difference between a virus and a bacterium?
