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[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Idk if I have encountered someone anti imperialist in Australia that isn't pretty clear eyed about the ongoing genocide against aboriginal Aussies.

Most people are disgustingly racist but most people aren't ashamed of that either.

The situation is fucking awful :( people in Australia generally are not very politically conscious. It's very status quo liberals and reactionaries.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, politics is something we "don't talk about" in this country and people will legitimately get mad at you for even discussing it, which is something the reactionaries are very good at using, they love making a topic "political" so people don't discuss it and their viewpoint on it is just the default.

Sometimes it feels like we might end up being the world's last capitalist holdout even after the US collapses, just due to sheer indifference and people looking to blame foreigners for all our problems.

[–] machiabelly@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds like America in the 90s and 00s

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

We are usually about 10-20 years behind the US when it comes to terrible ideas, so that would check out.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I met someone on lemmy doing the 14% line but for aboriginals. Literally said something along the lines of, "they are all criminals, alcoholics, and murderers who can't be assimilated". Reading through his comment history was wild, dude was genuinely arguing for segregation.

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not sure what the 14% line is but unfortunately that's extremely common. I was raised to cross the street to avoid the house.

People fucking love to pull out these reheated stories of one time a friend of a friend said he heard how some blackfella did something unforgivable like uhhh pinched a ladder or something.

Meanwhile community is shattered, overpolicing continues to shatter it, federal government has literally instructed cops fuck off and stop arresting people but they somehow just can't seem to do it despite their oh so sincere efforts.

Aboriginal people are like 400x more likely to die in hospital which is just completely unfathomable but none of the racist drop-kicks wants to engage with how that could possibly be a explained without racism.

Shit's fucked, it makes me extremely angry to see the genocidal spirit of colonialism is still in full swing.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Ah, right, you aren't American. It's super common for American racists to say

racism"black people are 14% of the population but commit 50% of the crime"
which is of course a severely bad faith use of crime conviction statistics. The Aussie I am referring to quoted a similar stat for aboriginals.

[–] narr1@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh shit, that's kinda like how there is a saying about Roma in Finland, how

Spoiler90% of them ruin their reputation for all of them, referring to the idea of Roma being thieves, frauds and generally untrustworthy.

I'm pretty sure people say this unironically to this day, and we have a saying of similar vibes about Russians, too! A lovely culture, full love and acceptance*!

*terms and conditions apply

[–] muhg@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Them romas are always stealin' the copper and burnin' cables!

Tale as old as time here in the Balkans, just replace roma with the appropriate slur.

[–] beanlover@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not to nitpick, but it's actually 13%, and they even use "1350" as a dogwhistle for the stat.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=1350

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

It brings me some satisfaction that I don't perfectly know the racism lore despite my upbringing

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I remember being legitimately blown away the first few times I saw a European pivot seamlessly from (rightly) condemning American racism to full-bore Hitlerian antiziganism.

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago

When you make fun of gringos for being racist but the euro laughs louder side-eye-1

[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's cool if I talk mad shit about the US if I do the same about canada? Don't threaten me with a good time.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's always cool to talk shit about the US. Even when it is hypocritical. I will just judge someone a bit if it is.

[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 18 points 3 weeks ago

Please enjoy the sticker that adorns my kitchen's soap dispenser as a palette cleanser:

[–] vice2remember@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's Its always been cool, but am canadian and can confirm, you'd be a lot cooler if you did!

[–] EmmiLime@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have yet to encounter a European that won't make Hitler blush when mentioning Romani people.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

See that's because unlike american minorities the romani are actually an inferior race and deserve to be oppressed, hope this helps 💕️

(this is a joke if it wasn't already obvious, afaik the reason people are so racist against the romani is because the fact many of them are nomadic, which clashes with a largely sedentary society, although it's mostly bigotry ofc)

[–] huf@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

most of them arent nomadic anymore, there have been god knows how many rounds of forced settlement.

people hate them because they're extremely super racist. everything else is downstream of that, such as romani living in essentially segregated ghettos

[–] kittenzrulz123@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Keld@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think some of you have only really encounted Europeans on reddit and twitter if you think the switch to Hitlerian rhetoric is connected to Romani people specifically. No. It's all minorities, it's MENA people, it's especially any indigenous group (Sami and Inuit for example), it's slavs.

The Romani absolutely get European racists blood boiling at their mere existence, and you will see people presenting as "reasonable liberals" frothing at the mouth and their eyes bulging with racial animus over someone mentioning Romani people. But Inuit are subject to gdnocidal rhetoric on a daily basis from official government channels (And the rhetoric is worse in media, and even worse than that interpersonally), "centrist" parties will openly speak of building camps for MENA people, Sami get treated like some sort of ungrateful locust, and French media and politicians speaking about Africans is just plain disgusting.

[–] Sapphy@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

Like father, like son.

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

been on reddit and tiktok a lot huh?

i have yet to encounter such a person irl. they are either truly anti racist, or full on proudly racist. no inbetween

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I use neither of those sites and hopefully never will again. For many liberal racists America serves as a very convenient black legend.

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

never heard a eurolib casually spout of about the inherently perfidious nature of the romani people have you

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

no because why would they? this is more of a social media thing

[–] huf@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

it's absolutely a reddit thing too, you just have to find a european subreddit

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Reddit is social media but I've had this interaction irl

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

Hopefully, other countries will learn from watching us that conservatism IS fascism. This cancer is on the rise in numerous countries, and most of the fascist leadership in other countries will be more intelligent and more competent than Trump.

End this before it starts in your country. Use extreme measures and understand that peaceful means will never stop fascism. Never.