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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 19 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

So I've had multiple GF's who were physically abusive, cheaters, chronic liars, gaslighters... so is there a version of this for me? Or are men never victims still?

So glad this didn't exist like ~15 years ago. My one ex, who decided to start a relationship with her co-worker, while we were looking for and then financing a house... When I broke up with her (like 1 week after closing), while I was trying to process the betrayal, she took to Facebook and text messages spamming EVERYONE a fake story about me, trying to pass herself as the victim. Even including a fake pregnancy! All to make me look bad because I caught her cheating. Thankfully, this app didn't exist, and several of my female friends reached out to me for my side of the story.

But all the "stories" on that app, 100% vetted, right? We get unbiased, both sides of the story, right... Evidence was required... right? Because imaging the harm someone could do if they were just petty, or scornful, of just bored. It's not like women have ever made false rape claims... right....

I'm not trying to imply my situation is what all men go through... but you can't just dismiss it, or other men, because it doesn't fit into your social media-fueled narrative. Yes, some men suck (and that's selling it short). But, women are just as capable of the same level of suck. We are all, after all, human.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 4 points 2 hours ago

People suck, hopefully you were able to take her to court for defamation because what she did is almost the definition of libel where I live (Maryland, US).

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

People who pretend to be victims upset me almost as much as people who victimize others (they are not equal, but it is still so fucked up). Victims have a rough enough time already being taken seriously. It doesn't take more than a few false positives to completely take the air out of legitimate accusations from victims. I wish there was some way to solve this problem.

[–] Kyuuketsuki@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago

I don't know why they upset you "almost as much" - people who pretend to be victims are in fact people that are victimizing others. "Other sides" notwithstanding, you said it yourself in so many words: they're also further victimizing actual victims.

I frankly find it more inexcusable.

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Inb4 "found the bear"

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 7 points 5 hours ago

How is this not a stalking app?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Some of the men's comments on here venting about how rough they had it dating really need to listen to women's dating stories more often. The level of violence does not compare.

[–] beegnyoshi@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't want you to take me badly, but to me this comment sounded really demeaning. Obviously women have it way worse than men, but you see a comment with a men venting about their personal experiences and the first thing that comes to mind is "women have it worse"?

I could understand this comment in the context of the app, and how people are making fun of it when its purpose is to try to solve such a common and awful problem in dating--but in the context of the comments of men venting here, it really just sounds like you're invalidating their experiences just because they're not women.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

and the first thing that comes to mind is “women have it worse”?

Yes, because I've seen it and I had to intervene way more than I ever wanted to. We've had our fair share of violent domestic disputes in the family perpetrated by the men, I've seen it out on the streets, and lately, I'm watching all these videos of stories of women online who feared for their safety.

I've seen women mistreated in public, some being threatened with their lives, I've had family members impregnated against their will, my neighbor was literally choked on the street outside my window, a woman being held at gunpoint by their partner (I was there), and I've found out through gossip that the little girl I used to live with when I was a kid was found dead in a fucking ditch because of an ex. So yeah, I have no pony in this race as a man dating men, and yet I have plenty of reasons to think straight women have it way worse.

sounds like you’re invalidating their experiences

No, I'm comparing the grievances, which are perfectly valid and understandable on their own, but they're completely different in how they weigh on the motivation for creating such an app. Those grievances sound a little weak as an argument for this "flip the genders" crowd.

Like, it really sucks that a woman led you on but ultimately turned you down for someone else and you've spent the last decade mulling over it, but it isn't quite the same as getting a brick thrown through a window a few times as part of a campaign of terror orchestrated by a salty coke-head ex who won't leave you alone and the police seem too eager to keep letting it happen. Which is what happened to my little sister for years. So yeah, kinda different when you factor in the readiness to go violent.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Spoken by someone who has clearly never been emotionally abused by a woman. Not all violence is physical. "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned".

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Spoken by someone who has also been emotionally abused by men, mind you. These women and I have a common subject, and the last one almost turned violent for me.

I could also go on about emotional manipulation by men if you'd like, but that'd be on top of all the violence.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 15 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

violent assholes make things worse for both men and women. Women for obvious reasons and men because women have to be more wary.

[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Back in the Google Glass days, I theorized that it wouldn’t be long before you could look at a person walking down the street and near instantaneously have a full profile of that individual, their age and address and family and everything, with Yelp-style reviews commenting on how the subject is a huge dick, or has a huge dick, or kicks puppies, etc. “Free”, of course, encumbered only by ads for bullshit dating services, and with just the minor inconvenience of full access to every goddamn piece of data on your phone.

I am only surprised that this kinda shit hasn’t happened much much earlier.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

I think some student used AI along with the Meta sunglasses with cameras to do exactly this and it's creepy how much info about you is just out there

There is, unsurprisingly, a Black Mirror episode about this.

"★★☆☆☆ Not a meaningful encounter"

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

"What clubs does he go to?" another person asked on a different post. "He’s cute."

Clubs? Are we in the 90ies?

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What? What term would be preferable to you?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Young people are being ‘priced out of nightlife’Turns out Gen Z aren’t boring – we’re just poor ❤️

Gen Z Man Reveals What Really 'Killed Club Culture'

etc., you get the hint.

A study recently linked it to

  • affordance (see above)
  • better general consciousness for health vs. alcohol
  • less tolerance for drunken slipups due to social media
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Oh. So, you're saying you don't go to clubs. I thought you might have been saying it's an outdated expression.

Alright then, carry on.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Denial will only hurt you later.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

What on Earth are you talking about?

Edit oh, I'm not denying that club culture is dying and more unaffordable, I'm merely glad I wasn't that out of the loop, thought there's a new word for "club"

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

90ies

I can't help but "hear" this as "Ninety eez".

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 5 hours ago

They're surprisingly popular state-side. Especially in big party cities like Miami.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

Whoops, native-germansher Verschreiber.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

:(

Some of us

[–] bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works 50 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine if the genders were swapped in this situation

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Or if this was targeted at virtually any other category of people

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, my thoughts were having people encouraged to add on information they know on top of public information is a gold mine for governments. Someone could opt out of social media and not even have a phone or computer, but now you could have citizens themselves creating profiles on their behalf and providing information on individuals like political leanings. People are just thinking dating because that is what the site is about.

But, my thoughts went to how a site could do the same for whether someone is legal or not, whether they are pro government or not, etc.

[–] StraponStratos@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 17 hours ago

This is fucked up.

[–] Numenor@lemmy.world 55 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Tea just suffered a massive data leak

[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

Gotta be a special type fuckbrain to give this app a photo and a copy of your gotdamn ID.

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