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Andy Yen's values are incompatible with Proton's mission. He advocates for poor security practices, supports fascists, and he verbally abuses his subordinates. As such, I can no longer in good conscience continue to financially support a company with such terrible leadership.

Unfortunately for me, my subscription just renewed last month on a multi year plan, but it does give me time to browse for and experiment with alternatives.

If you're able, I encourage you to do the same and cite Andy Yen as the driving factor for your decision. We can't let these tech bro fascists destroy what little semblance of privacy we have left.

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It's a for profit company in a for profit society. It was bound to work against morality sooner or later.

There's only a small window where companies can make satisfactory profits without being evil. After that tiny window, it's genocide, slavery, total destruction.

For email you can use Tuta, which seems fine for now. I don't even know what other services Proton offers, so can't recommend anything there.

[–] custom_username@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago

It’s a for profit company in a for profit society

True, but IMO their entire business model was to not be assholes, and businesses like that tend to hang on at least a bit better than this. I'm not saying I'm completely surprised though.

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[–] blind3rdeye@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Does anyone here use Posteo? They sound pretty good to me, and so I'm curious to hear people's experiences with using it.

I've heard quite a lot about Tuta; but about not many other alternatives. (I think it's healthy to check out a few options.)

[–] Plumrooster@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago

Tuta is a good alternative

[–] uzername@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

just write Andy Yen

[–] joeschmoe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am using Zoho Mail and at this point, I almost don't wanna know what they swept under the rug. I mean, I already have my own SMTP server, which I am using for all but 1 domain, for important stuff I have Zoho Mail. Now, if it really comes to it, I am at least ready to fully self host.

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