Traffic stops are often used by police as justification for further engagement, searches, etc. Any small violations, like not having license, registration, or proof of insurance readily available, gives the cops leverage to pressure people into answering questions without waiting for a lawyer, or allowing their car to be searched, etc., as the driver hopes that being cooperative will motivate the cop to overlook the ticketable offenses. This is why police orgs are so often against policies ideas like making traffic enforcement separate from criminal police work.
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This has all been computerized since the late 80s. They know if the car has a valid registration before they get out of the car, either by calling in your plates or by typing it into a terminal in the car. But since you are required to carry the registration in the car, not having it is something they can cite you for and make a few more bucks off of you.
The police are prosecution. They claim they don't have quotas, but with any job, there are unsaid quotas.
I worked in IT help desk, and I was told our department wasn't opening and closing enough tickets to justify our department's existence. So I changed the sensitivity of our network monitoring system for our SDWAN and wrote a script that would automatically create a ticket and close it pretty much if a single packet was lost. I was hailed a hero as the bean counter CTO wasn't going to review the actual tickets, but he got the metrics he needed for the meeting.
This kept a team of 14 quality support technicians employed. This stupid trick I rolled out over a weekend kept families fed for a good five years, delaying the inevitable layoff.
And we all found better jobs and left at our own pace.
But I digress, it isn't like the police work on commission (eh... well drugs disappear... and bribery and extortion exist...) but if you aren't writing tickets, then the prosecutor is going to bitch because they aren't handling enough tickets to justify the department of prosecution.
So cops will look for any packet loss. Registration is said lost packet. The same for insurance, any discrepancy in your license, and if your license plate isn't perfectly mounted on your vehicle. Just fucking anything.
You have insurance but don't have the latest card on you? They will write a ticket. You take the insurance card to the county clerk and they throw the ticket out and cancel the court date. Makes no difference to the cop, as it boosted his KPI.
"Yay, I am halping! Pay me!" Oh, how the bureaus will burrow.
I don’t get pulled over often but I haven’t Ben asked for registration in a long time. They do ask for license and insurance though.
This is the correct answer. Last time I was pulled over the officer only asked for my license, actually.
"May I see your license, please?"
"Yes sir."
"Thanks. Are you aware that your passenger brake light is out?"
"No sir."
"Get that fixed as soon as you can. Here's your license. Drive safe."
In fairness, I'm a middle aged white man, so I'm aware that I run basically every police interaction in easy mode.
They like to have a reason to make you open your glovebox so that they can see inside and maybe catch you with a joint or some loose pills
Just another thing they can use to fuck with you and maybe get to write you a ticket for.
Or, if you're black, they then have an excuse to shoot you as you reach for it. "Looked like he was reaching for a weapon. I feared for my life!"
It's not to check if it's registered. It's to check if it's registered to YOU. Does the name/signature on your license match the name/signature on the registration? If not, you'll need to explain why you're in possession of the car.
No, you can drive other people's cars.
It's pretext to catch you slippin.
Absolutely right. No love from the peanut gallery, though...
Wat? That makes no sense?
"This car is registered to someone else."
"Yes, I'm borrowing it"
"..."
"You must be a criminal?"
But that’s exactly how cops act?
Like in this situation this cop can now say “your story makes no sense”
And then proceed to escalate if they feel like it.
Literally had this experience with a cop when I bought a car that day and drove it with my old plates on it (not an uncommon thing to not use the temp tags). Got pulled over while stopped at a train track because the cop ran my plates and was upset that the vehicle models didn’t match the registration. Threatened to impound my vehicle and everything.
I got mad at the cop and straight up said “alright well my story does make sense, so I’m gonna tell you it again and you’re going to give me a ticket so I can leave” and then he got all pissy, wrote me a ticket and then I left. He pulled me over again about 2 minutes later because he forgot to give me my license back.
For clarification, I’m a white guy and at the time I was an active member of the military (which was noted on my license). All, I’m saying is police officers are power tripping fuckwads more often than not.
Do the cops not have access to the registration records on a digital system?
Because how do they know you didn't just steal a sticker? Those stickers don't have anything on them to prove you actually registered the vehicle. Just a color and a date period.
cause you are usually told to score the sticker with a sharp knife so if anyone tries to rob it it tears to pieces.
The stickers in Florida have the tag number on the sticker. Very obvious if its on the wrong tag.
I still cut em up lol had one stolen a few years ago.
Why even bother with the sticker then lol
These were phased out in Australia like 20.years ago.
I'm not sure it's possible to convey how absolutely deadlocked any legal changes have become in the US. Jon Stewart fought for years to get September 11th first-responders the healthcare they were promised, it was a single page of extremely popular bi-partisan legislation.
The system is as it is because that's the way it was in the 90s or so, and since there's no pressing need and no one has a reason to fight for years to change this particular aspect it will continue this way. Possibly for the next millennia or so.
I’m not sure it’s possible to convey how absolutely deadlocked any legal changes have become in the US.
This is why I think the US is facing terminal decline - this is like Austria-Hungary or the last King Louis before the French revolution. The problem isn't any one problem, it's the meta-problem of the inability to fix problems, and the inability to fix the inability to fix problems.
And there was a recent supreme court decision that basically neutered federal agencies like the EPA, so things will probably be even more tied to congressional slowness.
More than that, it's different in every state. iirc some states have stopped sending paper registrations entirely, while others practically still require women to have a note from their fathers. Somehow those fifty different systems have to talk to one another, too.
So not only do they have to get the House and the Senate to agree on something, and get the President to not veto it, they also have to get every single state to actually prioritize and fund the change across each jurisdiction (and there are a total of 3,244 counties in the US, so that's another layer of complication).
It's like turning the Titanic, but the Titanic is towing 50 boats behind it, each of which are towing dozens to hundreds of boats behind them. And the captain of the Titanic is senile, and half of the tiny boats in the back are actively sinking, and the iceberg is currently cutting into the hull, and...
Because when they pull you over and sit in their car for a minute before getting out, they are calling in your license plate number and make/model/color of the car. The dispatcher types it into their system and radios back to the officer with the owners name, address, whether the registration is valid, and whether the owner has any warrants out for them. They will automatically have all the information about the registration before they even get out of their car.
This is based on my personal experience as a campus police dispatcher in college more than 40 years ago. I'm sure by now, they have data terminals in the car they can type it in and look it up themselves.
They do have terminals, called MDT's (mobile data terminals). If the permissions are set for it in CAD, they can look things up. Your comment made me realize I do still hear them call for the info over the radio occasionally, though.
In California, proof of payment for a vehicle registration renewal is allowed as proof of registration, specifically to cover the period after the payment is sent but before the DMV has issued the registration and corresponding sticker. So even if the DMV hasn't received the payment in the mail, if a motorist can show some sort of proof (eg a bill pay transaction on their phone), that is acceptable.
Also, the DMV here will issue one-day registrations, in order to allow a vehicle to be driven from one storage location to another. If a motorist has a proper one-day registration, that won't necessarily show up on the police computer, but is nevertheless legit.
Both of those cases would only apply if the cop's computer shows the vehicle as unregistered, hence why the cop would ask in those cases. It doesn't explain why they ask for it every time, even when the vehicle is registered normally.
In my country, we get asked to blow into the breathalyzer. That's the only thing they haven't figured out how to make digital.
Fun fact: this never happens on a bicycle
Pulling people over for traffic violations is largely a money making scheme. Why remove the law from the books when computers are widely available when you can still add a fine for people who either don't have theirs or have an old one?
I wonder how much of the shitty societal problems are just rich people passing fear and purity to try to avoid paying taxes
Most I imagine.