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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Whenever I ask a religious what's so bad about the fruit of knowledge, they could never give a definitive answer as for why.

[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago

Yay more gnostic content!

[–] benderbeerman@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

God: I'm going to make humans, and I'm going to give these humans free choice... but i already know what all their choices are going to be because I can see the past, present, and future, which means that it's all already written. I actually made them to be the person they are and give them the experiences they need to be the person I want them to be. So, they only get to think they have freedom to make choices and decisions. Then I'm going to make them feel bad for making the choices I made them make. Then they'll love me because they'll feel bad for not loving me. And it'll seem to me to be their choice to love me. I need to be loved. I'm very insecure.

Lou: yo dude, you're fucked up. I do not wanna work for you

God: shocked_pikachu_face.png

Lou: you are not very good at this anyway, I bet I can do it as good a you can. You're sad.

God: go to hell, Lou.

Lou: fine, but I'm taking my friend's with me. Douche.

[–] NotAnOtter@lemmus.org 15 points 1 day ago

I know everything about everything but first I'm going to make this Earth simulation to see how you behave since I don't know yet. And then I will make decisions based on this information that I didn't know even though I knew it.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 102 points 2 days ago (77 children)

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Whoever originally wrote this, I want to be their friend! Thank you for sharing. It's beautiful.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I think they're called the Epicurean paradoxes because Epicurus originally stated them.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Marcus Aurelius, if I recall correctly. Good dude.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is basically alt-fiction. Lucifer rebelled because he wanted to rule as a god our of pride and personal ambition. The enemy of your enemy is not your friend, but because a lot of people have a problem with the Bible's fiction and how its cult acts it out, they like to indulge in this alt-fiction that Satan was essentially just another Prometheus. Why not just disengage from the entire fictional premise completely rather than pick one which deliberately antagonizes and plays into your critics?

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

The old testament originally didnt portray Satan as a singular character. The Hebrew word was used fairly often to describe all sorts of adversaries. The idea of a figure that portrayed the ultimate evil that rebelled against god and was cast out of heaven isnt found anywhere in the bible.

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