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[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 25 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

For the uninitiated: You need your birth time to calculate your full astrological chart. There's definitely a looot of crazy in the western esoteric mystery tradition (loose term for the religion-lite surrounding tarot, astrology, tea leaf reading, palmistry, etc). I should know, lol.

I spent about two years learning to interpret tarot cards as a regular introspective practice. Whenever you learn one thing though, you wind up learning about the others since they all use the same spiritual model (a lot of Christian Kabbalah influence + the four element alchemy of the time, but highly syncretic with especially greco-roman mythology but also a touch of Babylonian, Zoroastrian, and new age Buddhism, and some minor Celtic or Norse influence, although the specific mix varies highly from person to person).

So anyway I also wound up learning about, history, multiple religions, and symbolism of various glyphs, plants and animals, gemstones, etc. It was fascinating and has the benefit of deterring pretentious men (although that's less important now that I've picked one).

[–] reptar@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Syncretic

I'm not sure I've ever heard or read that word! And, it's real!

E: you wrote a lot -- maybe it's a bit rude to reply like I did. So, I am curious, was it beneficial? To use tarot cards as a way to be introspective?

[–] AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

Not the person you were replying to, but I found it useful.

The way that I saw it was that asking a particular question and doing a tarot spread for it was a way of getting some distance from the topic at hand. Like, if I am interpreting the cards/symbols and trying to understand how they fit together as a coherent answer to my question, I'm less preoccupied with actually feeling the feelings themselves (and so better able to healthily interrogate them). It reminds me of a much milder way of how therapy works (the distance of someone external is pretty important in therapy, which is why even therapists will often have their own therapist).

And there were certainly times where the cards seemed to so effectively and insightfully respond to a question that it felt uncanny, and I was like "man, I can see why so many people think that tarot has legit divinatory power". Of course, the insight that surprised me wasn't coming from the cards, but from me. Knowing that felt validating. Like, sometimes I'd be consulting the cards because I felt so overwhelmed by a situation that I didn't know what to do, but "the cards" responding with the perfect plan for that situation reassured me that despite how overwhelmed I felt, the wisdom to know the best way forward was something I had within me already — I just needed a mental space to work through my thoughts.

Though the physical space helped too; the ritual of tarot — clearing a space, then unpacking and shuffling the desk — can be super grounding too.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Well it's mostly an academic religious term and for a lot of people those two things don't go together for one reason or another. It's sad because they both have a lot of benefits.

And yes on the tarot cards. I actually used them in a therapy session recently because I haven't done it in a while and I feel like that's pretty symbolic of my current life state. It gave my therapist a lot to work with because she does EMDR and I basically started babbling about which people in my life resembled the court cards and events in my life that were similar to the pips and so on and so forth and her EMDR direction / redirection technique helped go in the right directions more consistently.

And no it's not rude, I love TIL moments.

[–] CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social 21 points 23 hours ago

Don't worry, mom, I know, I'm just hoping for a visitor pass.

[–] wh90b@sopuli.xyz 3 points 17 hours ago

I read mom's response in Ursula's voice from the little mermaid.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 127 points 1 day ago (8 children)
[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 155 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The only ones who really care about time of birth are astrologists, because within astrology apparently the time you were born makes a difference.

Mom is assuming that the only thing that would make OP care about when he was born is a girl who was into astrology, so she's just skipping to the end of the conversation.

[–] obvs@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Everyone in my family knows when we were born. We've had some pretty interesting stories about how it all happened.

I could just as easily see that question from someone who got curious from hearing someone else's story.

[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Thank you, we were to autistic to get the reference lol

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 303 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The implication is OP is asking for what time they were born so a prospective date/gf can make them a “star chart,” or astrology write-up.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Thinking back to the 'you either make fun of astrology or get laid'-meme... Maybe I should ask my mom about my time of birth.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

My honest recommendation is that you calculate your chart, then pick one thing in there that resonates with who you actually are, then emphasize that when the conversation comes up. The charts are long and messy with lots of different meanings mixed in for a reason. Even just between the sun, moon, and ascendant signs you should be able to find one of the three that describes you. If not you can look into the planet / house alignments or even just have the chart made sidereally.

It's a small amount of information to memorize, then you can say,"oh my sun sign is Aires but honestly it's my Libra ascendant that matters most of the time. I'm just always looking to make the world more equal." It'll both satisfy the person you're communicating with while also providing them with a way to conceptualize your personality within their worldview (which is basically the entire point of dating, or even just vetting sexual partners).

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago

Ahhh, okay thank you

[–] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ahhh, here I was thinking the partner of mom saw this message come in, grabbed her phone and sent this. Implicating that the sender had been somehow harrassing her before, or something.

Which didn't make a whole lot of sense, but there you are.

[–] Doom@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

We tend to filter things through our personal experiences. I kind of envy the people who were purely confused or whose first thought was astrology girlfriend.

[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Whenever I see a naked "?" my mind plays this sound effect from Paper Mario 64:

https://www.myinstants.com/en/instant/paper-mario-85157/

Thank you for attending my TED Talk.

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 12 points 1 day ago

Ya know... that does sound like a ?

Idk why, but it makes sense. So, thank you for your TED talk

[–] Metype@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago

My mind does the same thing! I always hear what I read in my head and a ? or ‽ sounds like that.

[–] iilwl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Took me a minute, but I'm guessing the mom is warning their child that any potential date or relationship with someone who believes woowoo about the significance of time of birth won't be good for them.

This is specifically for like intricate woowoo, not light hearted woowoo lol

[–] restingOface@quokk.au 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Mom is a time traveler, and son started dating the her from another timeline.

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 22 hours ago

"Marty? What a nice name"

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I read it as you the man in the mom's life being overly jealous and sending this response when he saw that she received a message.

Sounds crazy, and it is, but it's not super uncommon.

[–] JabbaTheThott@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

You need the time, date and (I think) location to do a full astrology profile. The picture is a guy asking for the time, and the mom saying stay away from her because she knows why the guy is asking and views it as a bad sign

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Mum's always right.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

Someone trying to get her password...