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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Good, Brendan needs to pay for the shitshow that is javascript.

[–] SolacefromSilence@fedia.io 10 points 8 hours ago

It'll be interesting if they find it legal for the AI companies to buy the "stolen" data from Brave. Is this the limit of scraping for AI?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 19 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Zero useful information. Just quotes. What does brave do??

[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 35 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

The court filing is linked in the first paragraph and worth a read. The article is a bit vague because the claims in the filing are pretty sweeping, but to list some highlights:

  • Brave started selling copyrighted scraped articles in bulk from their search index to AI companies
  • Brave built explicit and targeted functionality into their browser to circumvent newspaper paywalls
  • Brave repeats long, verbatim sections of NYT & other papers’ material on request through their AI web search feature

I’m neither an attorney nor a huge fan of IP rights writ large, but in my reading, the newspapers are making a pretty strong case that Brave is consciously stealing and reselling copyrighted material in unaltered form for monetary gain.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 3 points 1 hour ago

Gotta say, all of that is on brand. Any company messing around with crypto has to have done shady tactics.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 7 points 9 hours ago

The paywall bypass is not like the others

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Thank you for the summary. Ironically, this makes me want to try Brave again, ha.

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I would love for someone to correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t brave one of the ones who would block the ads of a website just to see newer their own? So not only are you not supporting the website, you still see ads.

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, they’re shady, no doubt, I won’t really try them again. I’ll keep using Firefox and Librewolf and I use Kagi for search and like their AI summaries. I do like tools for accessing gated news when I need it, though, which was what piqued my interest.

It's it basically the same idea as a residential proxy? Using user browsers to scrape sites and then sell for AI training.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 21 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The newspapers said in the complaints, opens new tab ​that Brave illegally sells their content to AI companies including ​Anthropic, Perplexity and xAI — which are not defendants in the ⁠cases — in addition to infringing their copyrights by allowing users to ​access their articles for free

The outlets' lawsuits ​filed on ⁠Monday said that Brave "acts both like a burglar that misappropriates the content of publishers, and an AI 'fence' that ​sells stolen content to third parties"

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 25 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

That moment when you don't even know who you want to lose more

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Brave is the commercial arm of a far right hate group.

I'd say that's worse than a news website with paywalls.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 hours ago

Brave is the commercial arm of a far right hate group.

Do you mind providing more details, for those of us who aren't informed about this? Is it something aside from their CEO?

[–] UiUiUiUiUi@piefed.nl 4 points 7 hours ago

Let their lawsuits be long and their lawyers slow and costly.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago

Maybe they lose on the paywall bypass but not on the AI bullshit.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world -4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Not brave's fault nyt code is bad

[–] NEZ27@lemmy.zip 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Just cause someone has a shitty door doesn't mean its cool to just walk in their home and mess with stuff/them

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

You wouldn't downlod a car, would you?