Good, Brendan needs to pay for the shitshow that is javascript.
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Zero useful information. Just quotes. What does brave do??
The court filing is linked in the first paragraph and worth a read. The article is a bit vague because the claims in the filing are pretty sweeping, but to list some highlights:
- Brave started selling copyrighted scraped articles in bulk from their search index to AI companies
- Brave built explicit and targeted functionality into their browser to circumvent newspaper paywalls
- Brave repeats long, verbatim sections of NYT & other papers’ material on request through their AI web search feature
I’m neither an attorney nor a huge fan of IP rights writ large, but in my reading, the newspapers are making a pretty strong case that Brave is consciously stealing and reselling copyrighted material in unaltered form for monetary gain.
Gotta say, all of that is on brand. Any company messing around with crypto has to have some shady tactics.
The paywall bypass is not like the others
Thank you for the summary. Ironically, this makes me want to try Brave again, ha.
I would love for someone to correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t brave one of the ones who would block the ads of a website just to see newer their own? So not only are you not supporting the website, you still see ads.
Yeah, they’re shady, no doubt, I won’t really try them again. I’ll keep using Firefox and Librewolf and I use Kagi for search and like their AI summaries. I do like tools for accessing gated news when I need it, though, which was what piqued my interest.
It's it basically the same idea as a residential proxy? Using user browsers to scrape sites and then sell for AI training.
The newspapers said in the complaints, opens new tab that Brave illegally sells their content to AI companies including Anthropic, Perplexity and xAI — which are not defendants in the cases — in addition to infringing their copyrights by allowing users to access their articles for free
The outlets' lawsuits filed on Monday said that Brave "acts both like a burglar that misappropriates the content of publishers, and an AI 'fence' that sells stolen content to third parties"
Yes I read that too. It's all allegations still. Did brave make a home-IP botnet?
That moment when you don't even know who you want to lose more
Brave is the commercial arm of a far right hate group.
I'd say that's worse than a news website with paywalls.
Brave is the commercial arm of a far right hate group.
Do you mind providing more details, for those of us who aren't informed about this? Is it something aside from their CEO?

Let their lawsuits be long and their lawyers slow and costly.
Maybe they lose on the paywall bypass but not on the AI bullshit.
It'll be interesting if they find it legal for the AI companies to buy the "stolen" data from Brave. Is this the limit of scraping for AI?