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I just finished a PhD in stats, and before that, studied computer science. I had planned to go back to industry to do software engineering or be a data scientist afterwards.

However, it seems that in the meantime, vibe coding has taken over the software industry and swallowed most data scientist roles. Few open positions, and the ones that do exist are just pushing a button instead of thinking and solving problems. Is this a correct assessment? Should I try to get back in or just find a new career? I am not too keen on staying in academia either.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I left corporate software engineering after 10 years. I wouldn't recommend it unless you can stomach the worst side of humanity.

I still love development, but I would only return if I can get a guarantee that I don't have to develop or work with AI, and only if I'm offered more than I was making before

[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I already had a second career in circus so I'm just shifting priorities

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[–] Kyrias@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Data analysis is only going to be more and more in demand.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 9 points 2 days ago

My advice, as always, is to take a look at current offers and to try to find both a line of work and a company that would interest you (and has the right benefits for you). Then build towards the requirements, not the other way around.

Every single piece of our economy runs on software so there are plenty of options beyond being an AI wrangler at Evil-Corp.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd give it a couple months before really committing to a new career

Everything is very uncertain right now, but the AI bubble is looking very poppable right now. After that happens, I think we'll have a lot more clarity about what the future will look like

It's going to be a long 8 weeks, but hopefully on the other side of that things will start making sense again

[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

I still have an academic job for some months now (one that cannot be extended), so I will definitely wait and see. But I think it's time to start planning and preparing.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

With a PhD in stats you should be able to make more than most software developers. Companies need scientists to sign off on certain claims for liability reasons and it's easier for them to just have one in house. That's a licensed position that AI will not be able to take away.

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[–] slimes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The tech industry seeks to introduce complexity to everyday things and disrupt systems to increase prosperity for people at the top. Technology solving problems for wellbeing is far from the ideal use case for companies, non-profits, and universities - and efforts to earnestly do this don't typically see the light of day.

Join a union or start one if you cannot find one. Figure out if you want to work in a field harming people globally or be a force for change.

If you're talking about solving problems to enable inequitable wealth for the rich then you probably can move forward, with perseverence. They pay top dollar for skills they tried to eliminate from education.

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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At the very least, it's a very different job than what you remember. It's more of a manager role now, without the paycheck.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Note this is far from a universal experience in this industry. Even if vibe coding worked as well in my problem domain as others, my manager would still be unable to deliver a vaguely decent solution.

Recently I was asked to review a vibe coded application from a random guy who convinced management he was onto something. But neither he nor anyone he knew could even identify the correct person to review the solution he vibed up. So they went to me and I recognized that I had nothing to do with the problem and forwarded them to the folks that would.

Ultimately, it was a rather visually impressive demo that didn't do anything vaguely right under the presentation. This is the sort of disconnect between management and what they manage, they have a whole culture of not even understanding the depth of their problem domains.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

I mean, yeah, I agree with that. Requirements engineering continues to be a big part of the job and an actual team lead does not have the mental capacity for that.

I meant "manager" more as in:

  • You're supposed to take responsibility for something you only delegated.
  • As a result, you spend most of your time checking the output of others/LLMs and trying to put in guardrails to push them towards the right goal and making them more productive.

I guess, everyone's a lead dev, without the paycheck, is probably more precise.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

seems unwise if you arnt in Programming, CS is right now. CS grads at the bachelors level already have trouble finding jobs after graduation. are willing to go back to school and get another masters, when you spent so much years on a PHD in stats?

have you considered other non-tech fields?

[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Getting another masters seems quite unwise too. Especially the things I could study (e.g. other types of engineering?) are not AI proof either.

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[–] CoconutLove@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

As they say, just put the fries in the bag, bro.

Jk. You’ll be fine.

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