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I’m getting really tired of “verify you’re not a bot” checks everywhere.

I understand these checks help prevent bots, but they seem to appear on so many websites now. Does anyone else find them frustrating?

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've just considered it a casualty of the privacy wars.

I don't know if they're deployed as a "weapon of annoyance" or anything, but I do notice that when I'm using a) a degoogled browser, b) an ad-blocking dns, c) mask my location, and/or d) block my IP. Suddenly (almost) every website makes me wait by throwing that at me.

I think it's lowkey trying to annoy me to the point where I give up on having those privacy measures, but they underestimate my hatred of corporate fuckery.

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[–] Garfunkel@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Unless you want this place to wind up like youtube and reddit with zionist AI bots skewing the entire website in favor of israel, no.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Considering that some Moderators in major lemmy.world forums and possibly even an Admin or two are rabid Zionists (the registration e-mail for my user in lemmy.world was literally leaked to Israel and I started getting invitations to "get to know Israel" online events on it, so clearly some Zionist had access to their user database), I think that specifically lemmy.world's anti-bot checks aren't really to stop "Zionist AI bots" unless the very real, very human Zionists in positions of control over the forums and server there think the "human touch" is too important in pro-Israel and pro-Genocide propaganda to have automated Zionist bots around.

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[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They should just use Anubis. At least we then see cute anime characters while the bot check runs.

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm even more annoyed by anubis. Letting me wait in the browser for an enternity for some check that a bot with a native implementation can solve in milliseconds.

Proof of work my ass.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It sure can, instead of doing 50 requests. A slowdown is all that's needed to make random scraping uneconomical.

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

https://github.com/mikenrafter/anubis-fast.mirror

This is a sample of a much faster anubis solver (end user facing).

There's versions. of this for people running bot networks - it's just a few cheap cloud cpu cycles to invest. Proof of work is an ineffective defense against spam in the age of cheap and scalable cloud compute - and even moreso if the botnet runs on residential proxies.

My point is, the slowdown is NOT making random scraping uneconomical anymore, it does hurt legitimate users a lot more.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Tbh I never had to wait much with anubis, neither with my phone or computer; websites that make me wait a lot (like the arch wiki IIRC) then give ya access without having to do the check again;
Also, Anubis unlike Cloudflare does not block me just cuz i have NoScript installed

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

How modern is your phone? Anubis is killing my old Samsung A72 from 2020 - long waits, draining battery. On the laptop it's less of an annoyance, I've got the laptop connected to mains anyway and it is fast enough.

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[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago

yes, including useless captchas.. even more so as i know they're trivially bypassed/workarounded on sophisticated bots

i understand it does block stupid crawlers but still.

[–] glibg10b@lemmy.zip 4 points 22 hours ago

lemmy.zip only has these if you're not logged in

[–] FunStuffIsFun@eviltoast.org 3 points 22 hours ago

Just the "click and hold" ones that take forever and only work 20% of the time. I need a damn good reason to go there, else I say "fuck it" and move on.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 156 points 1 day ago (23 children)

No, but only because I've helped run a website recently and you underestimate just how much wasted traffic is from scrapper bots. On our limited bandwidth, it was practically a DDOS attack all the time.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

My biggest problem with this kinda stuff is with Anubis and like one site using cloudflare.

With my current setup, like what feels like 99% of alternative r€ddit alternate frontend hosted sites don't let me in. So I am stuck using my redirect extension to keep trying to connect to a different instance from the list and it usually takes a while.

And then, as someone who like emulation, I gotta give a huge screw you to how ghe emulation gametech wiki thing completely blocks me from connecting to their site with a VPN active. Like, I just wanna see what's new in the emulator realm in terms of whether or not they still suggest certain emulators and their cloudflare settings basically shit on me for wanting to provately browse their website. Fuck me for not wanting my ISP looking at everything I do!

[–] azad@lemmy.wtf 14 points 1 day ago

Bots are genuinely a problem.

[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm going to go ballistic if I have to pick out all the pictures of fucking crosswalks one more time.

[–] dropdrip@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You're labeling data for Google... for free. It's not about 'stopping' bots, but about swindling free labour from the working-class.

A 13-month study published in 2023, "Dazed & Confused: A Large-Scale Real-World User Study of reCAPTCHAv2," found that reCAPTCHA provides little security against bots and is primarily a tool to track user data, and has cost society an estimated 819 million hours of unpaid human labor.

Other systems for deterring bots don't force you to menially label data for a for-profit corporation worth billions/trillions. An example of one that is automatic and open-source is anubis.

[–] bold_omi@lemmy.today 3 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, reCaptcha is bad. But Techaro's Anubis is a good thing.

[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I know. And that pisses me off even more.

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[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Says guy unaware that lemmy posts and comments are majoritarily published by bots.

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[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I'm not a fan of going to hardware store's website and having to verify I'm not a bot just to see if they have an item I'm looking for

[–] Hal@piefed.nz 47 points 1 day ago (5 children)

As others have said, they are absolutely necessary in this day and age.

But also the bots are not deliberately targetting lemmy, it's just that lemmy has unlimited pages to scrape and so the traffic piles up. If your issue is specifically with Lemmy then using an app should help. Many instances also give logged in users a free pass.

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[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Nah, fuck them bots.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You may not understand just how prevalent bot traffic is. I self-host a small personal website that real people only actually visit once in a blue moon, but I get constant attempts to access the Wordpress admin console (my website isn’t made with Wordpress lol)

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[–] GuyFawkesV@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Seems like a complaint a bot would have.

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[–] rowansprig@leminal.space 25 points 1 day ago

Man, if the checks feel excessive you'd be astounded to know how the bot frequency feels 😂

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I’ve never seen this message before

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cloudflare tracks TF outta you. Not antibot checkoff, but Cloudflare def

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