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Trump reportedly to back ceding of Ukrainian territory to Russia as part of peace deal
(www.theguardian.com)
I back ceding Donald Trump and Mar a Lago to Putin.
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Only if we can send the building over to them. Maybe drop it right on top of Putin's house.
Zelenskyy says NO. So does EU
Neither of them have the resources to continue the fight. This was always on America's dime, because national security had been outsourced to private American businesses
I guess. Yeah. That’s why Trunp can call the shots. Which he appears to be doing. The EU is in a world of hurt given that Trump fluffs Putin.
European intervention is looking like the only option now. because America is a captured state. there are only bad options now. and Europe is more than a year behind reality,
they sat on their hands hoping Kamala would win, and that they'd be allowed to continue offshoring their own defense matters to America, she didnt
so they sat on their hands hoping Trump wouldn't be who everyone thought he would be, He was exactly what everyone thought he'd be.
so they sat on their hands hoping he would change with time. He didn't, he accelerated his agenda and threw kerosone on the world by Parroting Putin, advocating Bibi, and Bombing Iran.
So they sat on their hands hoping he'd have a change of heart. And he rolled out the red carpet for the most honored guest, VVP.
Trump is an Ally of the Russian Mafia, Article 5 is already useless in terms of America, America wont go to war with Russia even if a KAB landed in Berlin tonight. Europe ought to consider their choices ahead.
Option 1 > Stop Bleating at America, Stop insisting that America Negotiate on Ukraines behalf in a specific way, and show some fucking teeth, and prepare for war.
Option 2 > Keep bleating at America, and accept Russia controls your politics now, and probably watch as your alliance disintegrates in 3 years when a military conflict breaks out in Latvia and no one wants to go to war with Russia.
Go fuck yourself with an umbrella, cheeto
He was talking so tough before he saw his pimp, now he’s got his tail between his leg and he changed his tune
Trump is an imbecile. His grave is going to be a gender neutral bathroom for the rest of human history.
I would use that bathroom.
What the hell do you expect when two criminals meet. Fuck Vlad and and his orange sock puppet. The EU and Ukraine already know they will have to contain the Russians without the MAGAt fuckers.
I like how you call him a sock puppet. It's a perfect analogy since his other use is to be Putin's cum sock.
Ofc he does. Surprised he can even talk while gargling so much Russian balls...
who the fuck does he think he is to "negotiate" ceding someone else's territory? (I'm not expecting any answers, the oompa loompa simply defies all logic)
something something, Alpha country, Beta country, Having cards, not having cards.
In all seriousness. these are people who have been parroting the same Kremlin lies that were confidentley asserting that Ukraine was already defeated like 1 month in and that everything after that was just prolonged suffering. These people are either Cowards, or Complicit. or both.
Doesn’t much matter, Zelensky has already said that’s a non-starter and their constitution forbids it anyway.
None of these demands are remotely acceptable to European leaders, either. Donbas is the part the headlines focus on, but the security guarantees sought by Russia are more egregious, given they would leave Ukraine totally defenseless.
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Next Putin will claim Alaska used to be Russian, and should be handed back.
And trump would give it to him after some fake posturing.
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Honestly not even news, tbh.
It’s comically and frustratingly obvious that his “ideas” are simply “whatever the last guy he talked to said”
That's the dementia. At this point he is increasingly acting senile.
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Every day, guillotines become more attractive.
He who drinks with the enemy while his ally bleeds is no hero but a fool. You grant him honor while he seeks to burn your and your ally’s home. No word of peace holds meaning while his sword is still raised against those who stand with you.
Install troops in Ukraine and show Putin already god damn it. That makes putin mad? Good that will make EU more unified. And its not like putin is gonna drop nuclear bombs cause thats suicide :) So bring him to his knees.
To be fair, appeasement worked quite well in the 1930s...
I don't seem to remember anyone other than Trump appointing Trump the lead deal negotiator for this, people would be losing their brains of Xi Jinping or Kier Starmer randomly started saying they were negotiating a ceasfire between Russia and Ukraine, Trump starts trying to do and it's all "sure let's give him a crack at it" regardless of the ridiculous outcomes of his meetings with either Putin or Zelinsky.. I've seen toddlers with better negotiating skills than this demented fool
Let's also not forget that the only reason he is even trying to negotiate and put an end to the war is trying to get the nobel peace prize.
Piece of shit. The US really outdid themselves reelecting that asshole.
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F-off! The French should have ignored the American colonists plea for financial and military aid to boot out the Red Coats.
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It ain't his tho?
This is like selling someone else's car to a third party.
Yeah, but he wouldn't be the rapist that he is if he understood no means no.
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So I think I missed something? Why is Trump thinking he has a say in this?
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This’ll be the second time they’ve taken territory from Ukraine and gotten away with it. They’ll probably take Belarus once that dictator dies, and they’ll eventually take Moldova since they already control part of it. They’ll keep trying to take all of Ukraine until it happens.
Belarus is already taken. Fully.
It benefits Russia to keep Belarus as a phoney, pretend sovereign state because its another vote and voice in international matters, it lends legitimacy to their arguments when they're at a stage like the UN and fighting with whomever, to have a bunch of warlord states voting alongside them.
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Okay, well, the last time I made this joke it came true, so I'm going to throw some salt over my shoulder after I say it, but how about instead of that, we just give Russia about 20,000 square miles of Alaska. We can start with the entirety of the Aleutian Island chain (about 6,800 sq. miles), and then work out some chunk of the mainland for the rest. That seems reasonable.
And if that does come true, then by God I'm going to go out and buy a lottery ticket.
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Without any guarantees for peace, like joining NATO, any peace agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on. Putin will demand such things won't happen and Trump will immediately agree.
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