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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 113 points 1 day ago (25 children)

I’m a starlink customer and think it’s one of the best advancements in the past decade as it provides real access to rural addresses. The side effects of this is nearly immeasurable.

Spacex needs to STFU about this though. Fiber should continue to be deployed where possible.

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[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fibre is an investment that can be used and upgraded for decades. Starlink is a subscription service forever to a private company.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 27 points 1 day ago (8 children)

And upgrading is piss cheap. Just change transceivers.

Same fiber cable that does 1gbps can do 100tbps.

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[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's dumb about this statement is all Elon would have to do is market to all the places where broadband companies refuse to go and be affordable. tRump already killed the rural broadband initiatives. There's literally no competition and word-of-mouth could probably pull in more who are unhappy with their broadband provider.

However, capitalism and greed are cancers that know no limit...

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Musk = POS Nazi.

Fiber fucking rules

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Honestly, I think starlink is a fantastic idea in general, but this is clearly bullshit. Starlink works well in tandem with fiber, not as a replacement.

It's just never going to be as cost effective as installed fiber. Fiber is obviously the right technology to use in heavily populated areas i.e. for the vast majority of Internet users. And where the population is sparse and laying fiber for individual customers is cost prohibitive, that is where satellite connectivity shines. If SpaceX or anyone else is pretending otherwise, they're being blatantly deceitful and malicious. That's not in Internet users' best interest.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Starlink works well in tandem with fiber, not as a replacement.

It doesn't even work well in tandem.

Starlink has a single benefit going for it right now: Lack of uptake.

They only have a swath of spectrum, and that has a physical upper limit to how much information it can carry, in total. So does fiber. But, Starlink gets to share that with all users (Much like how cable internet works, its shared bandwidth for everyone on the loop). Fiber, you get your dedicated pipe.

This isn't even getting to view obstruction (A plane will cause a drop out), latency, jitter, etc. These are all physics problem that just cannot be solved without violating the laws of physics. Latency, at a minimum, is 2.6 ms, and that's just for the first leg.

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[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 71 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Basic physics says satellites using Ku-band or whatever they use can't compete with fibre.

Satellite internet has its uses like for ships at sea.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

Goat says garden needs more carrots.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

what do you mean fiber "plans"? do you guys not have fiber?

[–] ChetManly@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Nope... i don't have cable or even great cell service and I live 45 minutes from a major city. Current ETA on fiber is mid 26.

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[–] etherphon@piefed.world 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah! I want my internet connection run by a man baby who turns off your access if he doesn't like you!

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 24 points 1 day ago

Alternative Headline: Billionaire Signals States Should Speed Fiber Rollout

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

SpaceX can suck my cock including the biggest welfare queen Elon Musk.

[–] _lilith@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

That will work out as well as the death tunnel (formerly hyperlink)

[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I say this as someone who actively pays for starlink out of necessity.

Fuck you, no. Fiber is much better for everyone. Eat shit muskrat.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I had Starlink for over 2 years while waiting for my fiber to be installed. Worlds better than the marginal DSL I had available before (5 Mbps down, 1 Mbps up), but I'm far happier with the fiber I have now.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

That's insane.

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