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A scientist has made the shocking claim that there's a 49% chance the world will end in just 25 years. Jared Diamond, American scientist and historian, predicted civilisation could collapse by 2050. He told Intelligencer: "I would estimate the chances are about 49% that the world as we know it will collapse by about 2050."

Diamond explained that fisheries and farms across the globe are being "managed unsustainably", causing resources to be depleted at an alarming rate. He added: "At the rate we’re going now, resources that are essential for complex societies are being managed unsustainably. Fisheries around the world, most fisheries are being managed unsustainably, and they’re getting depleted.

"Farms around the world, most farms are being managed unsustainably. Soil, topsoil around the world. Fresh water around the world is being managed unsustainably."

The Pulitzer Prize winning author warned that we must come up with more sustainable practices by 2050, "or it'll be too late".

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[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Y'know, Quasimodo predicted all this.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

Nostradammit!

[–] tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Civilization doesn't equal the world. Life will carry on and heal from the damage us 'smart apes' have done in our hubris.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's WAY later than I thought!

This is cause for celebration! 🎉

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

yep, sounds like we can start worrying about that in about 20 years then.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not sure if you're celebrating because that's earlier than you thought, or later than you thought...

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Extra time! I wouldn't have given us 5.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I think it's easy to forget the scale and momentum of the thing.. But yeah, the longer we go without scaling back our energy and resource consumption the harder we're gonna hit that wall.

[–] icystar@lemmy.cif.su 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago

And this isn't a news community.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 9 points 3 days ago

Where's that remind me bot? Remind me in 2049

[–] winkly@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Gestures broadly at everything

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Problem:

What's sustainable for 7 billion people (now) isn't sustainable for the population in 2050.

https://www.un.org/en/desa/world-population-projected-reach-98-billion-2050-and-112-billion-2100

"World population projected to reach 9.8 billion in 2050, and 11.2 billion in 2100"

We need a plan to either sustainably feed 10 billion people or dramatically reduce the population.

[–] Olap@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Most of the northern hemisphere isn't even making 2 per couple. It is Africa which keeps churning out babies to be blunt

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/birth-rate-by-country

What we have also seen is education and rising economies reduce the birth rate. If we want to actually curb things: the trend of reducing foreign aid is going to make things worse

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Seems to me like the latter is the likely outcome.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

A scientist has made the shocking claim that there’s a 49% chance the world will end in just 25 years.

100% it will not, no scientist worth anything would ever make such a moronic claim.
A possibility could be that civilization will end, but that's not the same as the end of the world, it's just the end of civilization.
The earth may change in ways that make it uninhabitable for humans, but that's not the end of the world, "just" the end of humanity.
It's very hard to take people serious when they make such obviously erroneous (stupid) claims.

Most likely it's an American, and it's just USA that will end, because Americans tend to think USA = The World.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

no scientist worth anything would ever make such a moronic claim.

He didn't. It would have taken you five seconds to read the excerpt OP posted and notice that the actual quote is "I would estimate the chances are about 49% that the world as we know it will collapse by about 2050."

He didn't say the world will end. He didn't even say that civilisation will end. He said that the social order we enjoy today could collapse. But rather than take five seconds to notice that, you decided to yell about nothing because it was more important to voice your opinion than it was to check your facts.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Dunno if everyone is enjoying that social order. But it's certainly true that there's less order than there was 20 years ago.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I would estimate the chances are about 49% that the world as we know it will collapse by about 2050.”

EXACTLY, so no scientist would make the previous stupid claim, just as I described, meaning it's probably poor journalism editorializing what the scientist really claimed.

Do you really think I should have made my post LONGER? Further describing how and why it's stupid, can you really not see it from the part I described?

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you really think I should have made my post LONGER?

No but you could've made it much shorter by cutting out the commentary based only on the headline and didn't read the article.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

My comment was NOT based on the headline, read again...

I made a quote from the selected parts OP used!
And disregarding the bullshit I receive for it, my comment is actually factual and correct, contrary to the article and the criticism of my comment.

I quote a part that is CLEARLY in error, as I stated NO serious scientist would write such bullshit.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think you're being, not only pedantic, but also just wrong. "The world will end" is a perfectly apt description to just about anyone about what is going on. The world will be uninhabitable for A MAJORITY of life that currently exists.

Permian extinction: last time shit like this happened, temps rose 10°C over 10,000's of years. Still killed 90% of ALL LIFE. To be so arrogant as to presume that the USA collapsing would not have any knock on effects on the rest of the world. To presume that what kills of humans would do nothing to any other life. To presume that that scientist is a moron who just LOVES AMERICA so very much, because why else would he say things that make me feel bad?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think you’re being, not only pedantic, but also just wrong.

What part of what I quoted can't you read? It's not being pedantic, it's a matter of facts. Calling it the end of the world is extremely poor semantics, and poor semantics lead to poor understanding.

The world will be uninhabitable

That's not the end of the world either. I described that VERY clearly.

Permian extinction:

Exactly, and that was not the end of the earth either, even the end of all life on earth is not the end of the earth. You may call it merely semantics, I call it facts. Poor semantics result in poor understanding.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Your argument is not wrong in the clinical sense. Just in the sense that it is so obtuse and irrelevant that your insistence that it is the only correct way to view things makes me not take you seriously.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

OK so being correct is irrelevant. And making a correct statement is obtuse.

Got it...

How do you imagine your comment to show you to have a point? Apart from just being obtuse yourself!

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

49% chance the world will end in just 25 years

Giant meteor coming to wipe out all of the world's life?

predicted civilisation could collapse by 2050

Oh, so just the collapse of current civilisation. That's happened many, many times already.

While not a good thing for those experiencing it, consider this. As we look back on previous civilisations, would we consider ours to generally be the best up to now? I'd say so. Perhaps what comes next will be even better.

The collapse of a particularly large civilisation is usually a slow affair that is difficult even to spot from the inside as it's happening (consider the slow crumbling of the USA currently for example).

So while it is a period of turmoil and not a small amount of suffering, it's not like everybody is going to die and humanity will go extinct, or anything.

[–] homoludens@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Oh, so just the collapse of current civilisation. That’s happened many, many times already.

Collapse of local civilizations has happened a lot of times. Collapse of the global civilization has not happened yet. And previous collapses happened often improved the living conditions for big parts of the population, because they were farmers who no longer had to support the ruling classes after the collapse. Collapse of food production and distribution when e.g. only 1% of the population are professional farmers (in Germany) will be fundamentally different.

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