It already turned around due to bad weather
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I'm confused cause that article says they already departed Barcelona after they had to turn around due to weather. Looks like the link was changed as well.
My only guess would be that the flotilla relaunched faster than anyone thought it would so the writer just updated the article. Looks like they departed Sunday, turned back on Monday, and relaunched within the same day (maybe even just a few hours).
Wow that is curious. The article itself changed. Don’t they usually include “update” or “changed to include” and a time stamp when that happens? Or am I just not seeing it? When I read it the first time it definitely didn’t talk about leaving port again. If memory serves it said they had to turn around due to weather and it was unclear if or when they’d leave again. Now it says,
“A flotilla of dozens of boats loaded with aid for Gaza departed Barcelona port on Monday evening after stormy weather forced them to return to port earlier, Reuters footage showed.”
Strange. But glad to know they’re underway.
Don’t they usually include “update” or “changed to include” and a time stamp when that happens?
No. These days news articles are updated all the time with new information and nothing to tell you. More often than not, people don't notice.
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She is the beacon of hope for humanity. She stands for the values that represent the best in us. And she not only tells us how it is, she leads the way.
Lotta fuckin nerve, that one has, to willingly subject herself to being attacked by the Israeli military AGAIN…People should remember this shit when they hear people in the Rogan-sphere calling her a “crisis actor” or “new world order shill”, or whatever dumb shit they’ll inevitably say.
She’s got more morals and conviction than any of those little bitches.
Other volunteers are as valuable
Agreed, but there's no one on board with the same public face as Greta.
You are right about that
... if not more so.
Greta brings awareness but I'm not sure what capabilities she brings to the flotilla.
She's also less likely to be disappeared than others.
She's also less likely to be disappeared than others.
Honestly I feel this is her playing to her advantages - Israel can (and does) sink ships carrying aid - and while I have utmost respect for the crews and aid volunteers on those ships - Israel doesn't - and having a high profile person on board that Israel knows is bad PR if they kill provides some safety for the whole crew.
I don't disagree , i just think it is important to talk about the other too
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Rogan said they were going to turn Greta into "hamburger".
Because he's so charming.
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She has powerful energy. She is the type of personality that will actually change this world, not internet complainers like you and me.
We are "complaining" on a revolutionary decentralized app that is challenging evil corporations and their monopoly on information. Everyone can do his part, upvote serious threads like this one and help lemmy grow
Nah, dude, you aren't doing shit here. Stop justifying ineptitude and reluctance. She's out there making tangible changes, you are here tapping buttons.
Playing the blame game and shaming people isn't going to suddenly motivate or inspire anybody to do better.
Advancing discourse and raising the consciousness of others on a decentralized platform is doing something, especially in a landscape where public discourse is regularly stunted and manipulated on centralized platforms.
Shit-slinging only makes a mess, but so often that is where discourse goes on most platforms. And to what end? So people can get more hateful and angry? So we can cry ourselves to sleep more frequently because of the state of the world and our collective learned helplessness?
I see people forging more productive discussions and healthy communities on the fediverse and I'm certain there is immense value in that.
You don't recognize that as enough, which is fine, but instead of blaming and shaming others for what you perceive as inaction, I'd suggest including a direct call to action in your postings - if you feel it is relevant to the discussion you are participating in. Bonus points if it is actionable for a wide audience. Or don't, your choice - no judgement here.
While you make some good points, have you heard the expression ”talk is cheap”? There’s no lack of talk.
There certainly is a lack of talk. The bulk of Trump supporters only get 'news' from a curated rightwing media source. They do not know about the situation in Gaza or the U.S. support for it. They do not know that Trump is threatening Canada's sovereignty. They are not all inherently evil for supporting the right wing, they are ignorant of reality. Communication and education is key. And we can't beat the billionaires unless we find a way to allow truthful communication to actually happen.
The billionaires are probably pretty content with people trying to figure out ”truthful communication” while the people who stormed the Capitol keep winning.
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This is how you justify inaction. Pretending shitposting is a revolutionary act, what a joke. And almost 40 basement dwellers agree.
We're fucking cooked and some of you think you're actually fighting.
red flag if you listen to Greta right now and go "I don't like her anymore"
I always found her vaguely annoying but tbh that just means she's good at what she does because the whole purpose of activism is to make people uncomfortable with the status quo. Like ugh I know the world is a raging dumpster fire but can I just finish this day in stardew?
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Greta woke up one day and chose to be staunchly on the right side of history, apparently an undesirable trait—to those on the wrong one.
I also think some people don't understand direct action as a valid escalation. Let's just hold up signs in the street forever.
"escalation" of unarmed people bringing food to people being starved on purpose, knowing they will probably be assaulted and abducted by armed military gangs on the way.
The escalation is coming from the armed thugs assaulting the ships, not the other way round.
I think they're saying her whole career as an activist was an escalation from waving signs in the street (ie: the average person)
I mean if you just ask nicely enough times, right? That’s how civil rights, women’s suffrage and labor rights were won and global apartheids dismantled. I mean when the bully is punching my face in, pleading to their humanity has always worked for me. /s
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I hope it goes better for them this time.
It won't. But they know that; and they know the risks. On the contrary, they know it will likely be worse than last time.
Short of Yemen (Barak Allah) these are the only direct actions to stop the blockaid on Gaza. An entire world watching as a live streamed genocide occurs.
Yemen and these flotillas will be written about in history as historians analyze why so little was done to stop a genocide.
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Christ the /r/worldNews thread on this is wall to wall monkey screeching
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