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'Strange noises' heard before squatter found in house with lights, TV and bed (www.bbc.com)

submitted 1 day ago by miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world

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[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago

Here's where squatting was taken to the next level

[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 day ago

I mean who hasn't spent extended periods of time smoking meth in a crawlspace while setting up electronics? Sounds like a normal guy to me...

In all seriousness though that crawlspace is huge! That tweaker scored! But all things come to an end I suppose, nothing a little meth bump won't fix I'm sure.

[+] ileftreddit@piefed.social 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

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[–] DrWorm@piefed.social 34 points 1 day ago

What? It’s an unfinished crawl space!

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

“no one should be living there” in reference to the LEGAL DOMICILE, the home itself.

Nowhere in the article does it imply there is nobody living in the three story housing complex. The article and everyone is rightfully talking about the crawlspace, a space nobody should be living.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

~~Read the article.~~ Comprehend the article.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s not a livable space…

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Looks more livable than being homeless to me.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not 'livable' in terms of building code. We could allow spaces like this to be used as bedrooms, but that would require doing away with the laws that say you need fire egress in bedrooms.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I know.

I also know what I said.

Its more livable than being homeless.

Now this person has a $75k bail, and a or more of a criminal record, so the cycle will continue.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I agree the record and bail are bullshit, but you cannot seriously be proposing that we relax fire code for rentals.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

you cannot seriously be proposing that we relax fire code for rentals.

Sorry to butt-in on this exchange, but I did not see anywhere they proposed such a thing?

I've been homeless and I've gotta say, fire codes are worth the toilet paper they're printed on when it's getting cold out, and you've been through 6 days of constant rain.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fucking yeah man, any set of walls with semi decent insulation and semi decent roof waaaaaay beats trying to sleep in your only set of clothes or a sleeping bag or a tent... during a fucking heatwave or blizzard or downpour or windstorm or w/e.

Full time camping outside like that is... usually something most people can only conceive of as what EXTREME survivalists who DRINK THEIR OWN PISS .... on TV... do.

Uh, nope, no thats just 24/7/365 life when you're homeless.

Well, minus the piss drinking part, that's not a good idea lol.

Like I legit have diagnosed PTSD from the experience, as well as, you know, aforementioned crippling injuries.

Thankfully I've been housed for a while now and have been working on handling both of those, and have been making good progress on both... but oh holy shit the number of days and nights I nearly died from one thing or another....phew, yeah.

Lots of people I met along the way... they did die, I was almost always the only nearby person with any halfway decent first aid/trauma response/OD response knowledge, did my best to help what I could... often wasn't enough.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the empathy here is when you become this desperate the laws become a suggestion.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The empathy here is not forgetting that people died for those laws. I understand that people would rather risk death than be homeless, but going back to tenement halls is not the answer.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

When capitalism gives nobody choices you dont get to decide the laws the people do. Revolutions have started for less.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I see, you want things to be even worse for the poor so they can have a revolution faster.

If we allow spaces like OP's article to be the new bare minimum for rentable space, then that's what corps will rent at apartment prices. It won't bring the cost of housing down, it'll just be another way to funnel money from the poor into the pockets of the rich, and people will die in the process. If you support that, you're licking boots.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Are you stupid? For profit will make it worse for the poor dumbass. Its why capitalism is only short term oriented and why its forced to compromise on socialist practices. What do you think happens to everyones bank account living in a funnel system for 0.01% of the population? They are forced to work for the rest of there lives.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, I'm stupid.

I'm so stupid I don't understand how to more clearly state that no money should be required in exchange for permission to live here. It should not be a rental property. No profits should be made.

Can you understand my point now?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Didn't say I was, but clearly mass homelessness constitutes an emergency, and emergencies tend to legitimate, you know, emergency measures of some kind.

Both from the perspective of the squatter and society more broadly.

Without attempting to single handedly devise a comprehensive set of policy reforms to solve homelessness...

Only gonna get worse if nobody does anything that actually works to alleviate the problem.

......

Also, what specifically do you mean by fire egress for a bedroom?

I live in a studio apartment.

I am currently crippled.

In the event of a fire, my exit options are hobbling out of the single door with crutches or a cane, then slowly moving down some stairs.... or falling a couple stories out of a window.

Yeah, no elevator here. Not ADA compliant. Can't afford much on disability alone.

Seems like this guy could probably shimmy out of that crawl space faster than I could hobble down some stairs, and I know cuz some dipshit tripped the alarm at 2 am a few months back and it took me 15 minutes to suit up in braces and then actually get outside the building.

Reason my building isn't ADA compliant is because its an old motel, thats been hastily converted into doing just normal long term rentals... as a kind of emergency measure, toward housing those down on their luck, when housing prices are insane.

Would I prefer to live in an ADA compliant dwelling?

Sure, but I even more strongly prefer to not be homeless because nobody allowed this hasty motel -> apartment conversion to happen, because of fire codes, and I can't afford anywhere that is fully up to code.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Complain about the right parts, instead of attacking every level of this

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh I'm sorry you interpreted what I said as 'attacking every level of this', seems like this issue is a bit of a touchy subject for you?

Its ok, as a formerly homeless person, I am quite used to my perspective offending people by reminding them of their privelege and them being very insecure about that.

Also, lol at the outright command you have given me.

Nah, I'll say whatever the fuck I want, cry to mods or block me if you don't like that.

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Based

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The fuck? It's a crawlspace. You can't legally rent that out anywhere.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Next you'll complain that evil landlords are renting out their cupboards and crawl spaces!

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

so they're saying that a methhead was living in the walls, how the turntables

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hmm. Usually walls live inside a meth head?

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

no, usually head meths a live inside wall, or walls are alive inside methhead's head. try to keep up

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"man shelters in open space"

wow let's charge him 75000 nazi golds

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago

Do you have an extra room in your house? How would you feel if I moved in and started smoking meth?

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nope, you don't get to live in my house without my permission. You are free to invite strangers to live in your house, I'll even cheer you on.

[–] chloroken@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago

I'm going to squat in your house and there's nothing you can do to stop me.