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The organisation may be enabling the Greens Party they profess to oppose.

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[–] MHLoppy@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But more than that, the Greens have the avowed aim of taking over the Labor Party and destroying it.

News to me!

[...] the Greens have become an extremist party.

They are aligned with Islamist extremists, offering a safe space for anti-Semites. The party backs some of the world’s most violent, tyrannical, misogynist, anti-gay and racist regimes. They claim to be progressive but are the exact opposite of progressive.

Soon-to-be voters should probably consider statements like this themselves, as they're of course highly subjective. I'll admit to knowing comparatively little about the position of each party on Israel/Palestine stuff so I'll have to leave a direct reply to that one to someone else, but having inadequate environmental policy is, subjectively, an extremist position. I can now label Labor and the Coalition extremist parties 🙃


The way the preferences can occasionally be quite strategic (due to candidate elimination and flow-on votes) is an interesting phenomenon though.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Avowed! They want to take over the Labor Party by *checks notes* campaigning as a completely different party.

I wonder if Tony always talks about themself in the third person.


I’ll admit to knowing comparatively little about the position of each party on Israel/Palestine stuff so I’ll have to leave a direct reply to that one to someone else

I think it goes without saying that the Greens support Palestine, and that doesn't imply they align with all the social policy of Palestine's various political parties, just like Australia supporting Ukraine doesn't imply alignment with their prominent Azov Battalion. The only parties in the Zionist Regime's genocide which somewhat align with the Greens overall values are minor parties who inevitably are forced to join forces with Islamist parties because they don't have enough power alone, we're dealing with decades of siege and accelerated genocide, beggars can't be choosers.

If we were (hypothetically) invaded by the US or China, and we all had to join forces behind a Liberal government to repel it, would that make us all (materially) supporters of a misogynist, anti-gay and racist government? That's debatable, but consider the alternative. It certainly doesn't contradict our progressivism.

[–] MHLoppy@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Unbelievable, I expected better from you /s

A satirically censored version of the parent comment, made to say: "I support all the social policy of Palestine's various political parties, just like i support genoicide which somewhat align with the Greens overall values Islamist siege and accelerated genocide If we were China, join forces support gay"

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

yes I support all the policies, even the ones which contradict the other ones. Uphold gay Islamist-Chinese—Australian solidarity. My political ideology is the colour green. I will bring us a Great Green Wall, Libya's old national flag, and make it illegal to have purple as an official party colour because purple is the opposite of green. I don't know how you managed to see though my disguise, but no point hiding this anymore.

[–] MHLoppy@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

Now this is an agenda I can get behind - eureka for PM!

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He's apparently a writer for the Herald Sun and Australian. Thats enough for me to discount anything he says immediately as probably skewed if not outright false, until he proves otherwise. Believe it or not they, (Murdoch Propagandists), can, rarely, make levelheaded comments. Its a rare sight though.

Advance is Exposed in Macnamara

Title seems deliberate, and a little hyberbolic, in an attempt to mislead readers as to the articles subject matter.

The article reads like a friendly disagreement among friends. Where one friend has a brainfart their muddled mind construes as profound then has to express it, thus demonstrating his knowledge and command of a subject to all around.

They are aligned with Islamist extremists, offering a safe space for anti-Semites. The party backs some of the world’s most violent, tyrannical, misogynist, anti-gay and racist regimes. They claim to be progressive but are the exact opposite of progressive.

Classic lazy partisan writing.

Assertion of non-specific associations. Using language indicating those associations as deplorable to the unbelievably extreme.

But all too often turns out to be literally unbelievable. With comparisons easily made about all other actors, in this case Labor/Liberal/Nats/etc, when judged by the same skewed grounds these allegations have been laid.

One massive problem with this type of shitscoop writing is, when a truly disgusting association comes to light of some heinous group/individual and some political entity, be it individuals or Party, the languages impact has been minimised due to its low bar for deployment.

[–] Turturtley@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

Mcnamara is 10% Jewish. Lupton himself is a self-proclaimed zionist. So I'm not at all surprised to see him taking this stance.

As is typical of people in his station. Opposing the genocide of the Palestinian people in the hunt for Hamas is interpreted to mean that the party is anti-semitic. Supporting the Palestinian people means supporting Hamas and therefore is violent, tyrannical, misogynist, anti-gay and racist.

Must be nice living in such a black and white world.