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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

My work computer is on W11. Notifications got much worse, and moved to a harder-to-reach shortcut. There's a persistent bug with maximization, in which many forms of apps will suddenly take over the region normally reserved for the taskbar (no, I'm not referring to full screen modes) that so far as I can tell can only be fixed by logging out.

The UI is worse, making settings pages even more confusing. Windows Explorer has dived deep into iconography, while still not being clear about what those icons mean. The new context menus are missing options, so they need an extra one to go back to W10's options.

This is of course setting aside their blatant lies about "It's not spyware we promise we promise", among so many other hundreds of problems. I'm doomed to stay on W10 for now to finish a project, but afterwards, I'll be finding a distro I prefer.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 days ago

I converted to Linux as soon as one of the shit Windows 11 updates bricked my 5-year old laptop that was working fine previously.

Kubuntu 4 lyfe! ✌️🤪

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I moved to Linux thanks to their enshittification. I'm kicking myself I didn't do it years ago. Linux is how an OS should be.

[–] DoctorPress@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Welcome to linux bro

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[–] blind3rdeye@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago

I use Linux on my home computer, and Windows on my work computer (begrudgingly).

Windows 11 does not feel like an 'upgrade' at all. One obvious downgrade is that when I try to change the settings when printing a document, the settings window does not fit on the screen. ... I don't blame Windows for that - its a big settings Window. But the issue is that Windows doesn't allow me resize it, or scroll down on it, or even let me drag it partially of the screen. And so the result is that it is impossible for me to click the 'ok' button when I'm done. The only way to save my changes is if I memorise which button is ok, then press 'tab' the exact right number of times to have it select the ok button while I can't see it, and then press enter. That's pretty crap. I didn't have that problem on windows 10. (To be honest I don't remember exactly what was different. Certainly the window with all the settings was the same, but I believe it had a scroll bar, maybe? In any case, I could certainly press the ok button before 'upgrading'!)

There are so many annoying features in Windows 11 that I've spent ages trying to turn off. For example, I was happy with the way windows could be snapped to the top and to the sides of the screen in windows 10. In Windows 11 they've expanded that feature, but made it worse. The snapping brings up menus, and behaves different ways at different times. It's fiddly and harder to predict. It tries to do more, but ends up being less useful because it is unreliable. I've disabled most of the differences in the settings, but not all can be disabled.

And there are heaps of weird inconsistencies in Windows 11. For example, when I rename a file in file explore; often stays in the same places even though it is no longer in the correct file order with the new name. So with alphabetically ordered files, there are often a few things that are out of order - because Windows is inconsistent. (Closing and reopening reorders them.) There are also some weird glitches. For example, I often see graphical glitches while using Excel in Windows 11 which I never saw in Windows 10. Things like rows partially overlapping other rows after scrolling, or the outline of the selected cell sometimes not being visible in parts of the document until you minimise and restore the app. It's pretty bogus. Obviously they've tried to change some backend stuff and created some bugs in the process.

Anyway, the point is that it easy to see why someone would be reluctant to 'upgrade' to Windows 11.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My work computer had to be upgraded to 11

Why does my fucking file explorer stop responding so much?

I don't understand how they fucked this up so badly

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Only Microsoft wants to upgrade. A product without a market in a monopoly is capitalism end game.

[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Windows convinced me to upgrade to Linux :D

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago (4 children)

They can't convince me to switch to Win 11 because apparently my computer isn't good enough.

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[–] ArtificialRyan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Windows shoving AI down everyone's throats lead me to Linux. First Debian, then Fedora. BTW I'm using Arch now. I love AI, but giving Microsoft full access to my entire file system by force rubs me the wrong way.

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

*Downgrade

Win 11 is a downgrade.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
  • Worse drivers.
  • More bloat.
  • More "telemetry" (spyware and adware).
  • It breaks a ton of the systems I've had to implement by sheer force.

Why the FUCK would I do that? Just to give microsoft more money? Go and FUCK yourself.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget AI shoved down your throat that takes goddamn screen captures without any care of what sensitive infor,ation may be displayed and processes it to reme,bet everything your do. It's goddamn 1984.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Microsoft also works with American intelligence, like other corporations. They won't even fix zero day exploits without first letting the NSA know in advance. Telecoms have black rooms whose entire purpose is to siphon data directly to the authorities, Microsoft probably has a whole building.

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago

I use Linux for almost everything, but I do have some important software that only works on Windows, so my solution is dual booting Windows 10 with a different static IP than the Linux partition, with the Windows IP blocked from the internet in the firewall.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I mean, it's windows 10, but worse

  • If you have 8gb or less of RAM, it's constantly swapping and trash your SSD

  • It always needs to automatically install the fucking updates in the background hogging the CPU and SSD time when you actually need to work/play

  • When they introduce bugs, they take years to fix them. The taskbar took 3 years to be restored to features that were present since windows 95. One year ago they introduced a new bug that with some display port monitors, when it goes in standby, the resolution switches for a second to 640*480, trashing all windows and desktop layout, super infuriating. Probably this will be fixed in windows 12

Plus with all their decision to force people to trash millions of perfectly working computers... I know many they just give up on personal computers and just use phones/tablet as it's enough for them

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (6 children)

The updates are off the fucking charts. Constantly updating/breaking services and apps are useless literally until you reboot. They really took the "reboot will fix it" and ran as far as they could go.

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tried to upgrade, it knocked me back to w10 and broke my sound driver

[–] Damaskox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'm still on win10. Planning on hopping over this one Linux-based operating system for gaming specifically (can't remember its name) once the updates for Win10 run dry. I've heard so much bad stuff about 11 that I'm going to try again with Linux (years ago I jumped in Ubuntu since a friend recommended it but I needed to jump back because games didn't work well).

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I ran POP-OS for about six months a couple of years ago and ended up switching back to Windows because there were too many compromises. Recently I tried it again with the same problems but jumped to Bazzite instead. It fixed most of my issues but I didn't like the limitations imposed by the guardrails it put in place to make things easy. I then switched to Fedora since that is Bazitte's base and haven't looked back. The only issue I've had is the video drivers didnt install right automatically but the fix was three well documented commands.

[–] ksigley@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Debian, I believe.

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[–] zerofk@lemmy.zip 113 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The risk for both general and corporate business users far outweighs any minor inconveniences of moving to a new OS version.

Minor inconveniences like HAVING TO BUY A WHOLE NEW FUCKING COMPUTER.

These people live in a fantasy world.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Other minor inconveniences may include:

  • AI spyware on systems (a very real issue with corporate and government machines)
  • Legacy software not working in the new OS
  • A drastic decrease in OS productivity
  • Damage to hardware (potential as reported)
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[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Bro they couldn't convince me to upgrade to Windows 8.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This happens every time there's a new windows version

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 3 points 1 day ago

Part of it is just resistance to change, but the hardware restrictions and AI encroachment are legitimate impediments in this case.

[–] agelord@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Windows 11 blue screens on my desktop on the very first boot right after installation.

[–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] massacre@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Have they tried not being spyware?

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[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 221 points 3 days ago (39 children)

I sidestepped to Mint. Sorry, Microsoft, your shit’s untenable and disappointing.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

The official support for Windows 10 ends on Oct 14, 2025. Give new life to your old computer. Save money and install Linux: https://endof10.org/

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[–] julysfire@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was so unconvincing I switched to Linux

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

I'm talking out of my ass, but I believe they couldn't really convince the non-techies to upgrade from 7 & 8 to 10 either.
The average Joe doesn't give a shit. They simply booted their computer one day and oops, it had upgraded itself to 10.
Microsoft could have almost this entire userbase on 11 by now without them even knowing thanks to 10's automatic updating, but nooooooo they just had to require TPM or some shit.

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[–] troed@fedia.io 154 points 3 days ago (23 children)

My elderly parents got the "your computer cannot be upgraded" and my somewhat tech-litterate mom asked me to move them to Linux.

Microsoft should've realised at some point that the only thing most people need today is a computer that can run a web browser and connect to a printer.

It boggles my mind that tablets didn’t take over already as peoples “At home” devices

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[–] ZiemekZ@lemmy.world 117 points 3 days ago (13 children)

I'm upgrading to Debian 13 instead, since 13 is bigger number than 11 so obviously it's better

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[–] Mvlad88@lemmy.world 53 points 3 days ago

I successfully upgraded from Windows 10 to Linux Mint.

[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 44 points 3 days ago

Stop forcing shit no one wants on your users then!

Every fucking update... Hey let's backup your stuff. Hey wanna backup your stuff? Let's backup your stuff! We totally won't hold it hostage if you stop paying us lol!

🤬

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I'm one of the few whose laptop is about 10 years old so it needs replacing. Most likely a new laptop will be preloaded with windows 11. Do they sell laptops pre-loaded with Linux?

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Installing linux yourself is dead easy. I would just buy a Windows laptop and wipe the drive

[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't want Microsoft to have the win of selling even 1 license.

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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Depending on your budget, there's the Framework laptops.

Edit: I want to add... What I did, was go to an opshop, get a laptop there, and wipe it for Linux. I got a decent laptop at a decent price, saved a little on ewaste for the world, helped a local opshop make a little money, and not contributed to any corpo greed.

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[–] Gamoc@lemmy.world 99 points 3 days ago

They're not trying to get me to upgrade my OS, they're trying to get me to buy a whole new fucking system for no good reason. Every last one of them can die in a fire.

And that's before we consider that Windows 11 is actually a downgrade.

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