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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/35985472

Ooft, the prize is literally just a trophy, why would you cheat this? Skimming takes skill, but to win you surely need a healthy dose of luck too. Anyway, Easdale looks a fun place to visit

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[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Writing that headline absolutely made a word-nerd's day.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The winner totalled 177m, and you get three skims, so almost 60m of skim each.

How many people could even throw that far?

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 8 points 2 days ago

I think I can skim a stone farther than I can throw one, given a good stone and flat water... and a few attempts. I'm definitely not getting remotely near 60m though, that's wild

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Okay. So.

Stupid question.

Why don't they do some like, synthetic, maybe stoneware, "stones" that are perfectly shaped for optimal performance. One, if they were all uniform in size and mass and mass distribution, it'd be a lot easier to spot a cheat. And two, if it's optimized (or intentionally un-optomized) that removes some luck and puts the skill more center stage.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago

Picking a good rock seems like a skill. Though, that assumes you can get the rock you want.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The rule is that they have to be natural stones from the island

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So... Planting them beforehand would have to happen by when, exactly?

440 million years, give or take, if you're going for maximum undetectability.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yes, I understand that, the rule doesn’t make sense from a competitive point. I imagine there’d be somebody local that would happily supply something (fired clay, maybe,) at cost for an opportunity to sell stuff.

Maybe it’s just a non-serious local event, and finding the rocks is half the fun.

But really! lol.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why don’t they dope openly in the Olympics, maybe similar here

Synthetic = cleanup needed after

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

stoneware is relatively environmentally benign as litter. It's just clay that's been fired (and maybe glazed, mind. but no need for that.) What makes it different from earthenware is that the type of clay used can be fired to a higher temperature, letting it fuse and turn glassy (without said glaze). terracotta pots, for example, are earthenware. something like that.

If you wanted to get even more particular, I'm sure we could sinter some artificial shale or other sedimentary rock into a synthetic stone. "synthetic" here means artificially constructed, the materials could be little different than "natural" ones already in the environment. There's probably clay deposits near by to justify that, too. (maybe not on the island, which was historically a slate quarry.) "

the reason they don't dope in the Olympics or any professional sport is because it's dangerous to the body. if everyone used a rock designed to be identical, it wouldn't be cheating, in the same way that good nutrition isn't cheating in the Olympics.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right?

Field hockey and LaCrosse balls are all the same, have to meet a spec.

Why not just make a spec stone, sell it, and license it with certification tests?

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 1 points 1 day ago

I think it's just not really in the spirit of the event. It's not meant to be a completely serious athletic endeavour, it's a bit of fun and fundraising. They're getting 2,000 people of all ages on to a tiny island with a population of 61 to chuck some stones across a pond. There doesn't seem to be a big cash prize or anything. There was a raffle to win a wheelbarrow described as doing "0-3 mph in 1 second"

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How the fuck do u cheat at skimming rocks? Planted rocks?

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Rock doctoring!

Dr Matthews, also known as the "Toss Master", told BBC Radio's Good Morning Scotland that judges heard "rumours and murmurings of some nefarious deeds".
"There was a little bit of stone doctoring," he said.
"They had shaped it so that it was perfectly circular and fitted our three inch measurer.

It appears it didn’t matter, though, because the article doesn’t mention the winner as one of the rock doctors.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's a good band name if I ever heard one: The Rock Doctors. Almost weird it isn't already taken.

It is taken. Twice. A UK group and another in Australia.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Here was me thinking that Toss Master was the one to go for

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

The Toss Master VS The Rock Doctors

Epic Showdown!

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 3 points 2 days ago

Same!! Toss Master gave me a chuckle

“Toss Masters” would be terrible. A quick search using two platforms indicates you’d be buried under “Toastmasters” and Cornhole bag tossing competitors.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 12 points 2 days ago

I can't wait for a 10 part Netflix documentary about it.

[–] Hector@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Taking performance enhancing drugs? Idk if that should even matter. Steroids are not going to change your skims, gross as they are.