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There may be an age or generational explanation for this, but I especially notice this behavior on Reddit while not nearly as much here on Lemmy (though maybe that's also a mater of implementation).

It seems many are so quick to assert overly-confident positions, but then hit-and-run with some smarmy remark at even the slightest challenge, then quickly block. Like, not even crazy stuff. Just basic, civil disagreements. I can pretty well predict when it will happen, and it always feels like such a petty ego-sparing fingers-in-ears denial thing to do, and to me if anything shows they were not very confident in their views being challenged.

I think I've only blocked a handful of people over a decade who were actively spamming, stalking, or spewing extremely hateful rhetoric and I just reported them simultaneously. You have to cross a pretty extreme and irrational line for me to do that.

The reason I ask is to see if I'm missing something; to better understand the mindset of those who do.

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[–] Redacted@lemmy.zip 23 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I used to agree with you. Ever since I started just blocking anyone that was being annoying my experience on the web has been great.

[–] 1141kizzie@thelemmy.club 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If you are talking about banning people in debate, Then you are not being fair. Any criticism can cause annoyance to some people, even if criticism have pleasant wording

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, turning inwardly to my family has been great. Especially given the political climate and my general disappointment. Finding "your people" is quite pleasant. Tribalism is sort of ingrained into us at a primate level, I suppose.

Still, I guess I try to strike a balance when all possible because I know the traps of building one's own silo and the consequences that can have.

[–] Redacted@lemmy.zip 15 points 22 hours ago

Im not advocating for you to turn away anyone that disagrees with you, just those that are annoying about it.

As I get older I value my time more and more, every second spent reading or talking to some asshole online is a second I'll never get back.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago (5 children)

People are trying to 'win the argument' for personal satisfaction. They're not trying to self-correct or seek the truth.

I think I’ve only blocked a handful of people over a decade

I'm the opposite; I have hundreds of people blocked, mostly because they are bores.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 15 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Another aspect of this that I've found is that engaging in benevolent smalltalk with someone here on Lemmy somehow sometimes results in them treating it as an argument.

No, I will not concede to whatever point you're trying to make; I was making conversation, you were trying to win an argument. I don't care if you're convinced your particular approach to a particular problem is better than mine.

And if they then don't realize that I'm not interested in engaging, and keep the "debate me bro" attitude, they usually end up on my blocklist, or at the very least they end up with a red tag behind their name.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Reddit made that change where if you blocked someone they couldn't reply to you in a thread.

That was quickly weaponized so that you could 'win' an argument. Someone could write something and your reply would not appear, so it looked like you realized you were wrong.

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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

I don't know about this "winning" theory.

Generally, people feel like they've won when they get the last word in. If you block someone, you don't see their replies and assuming they do reply to your last comment, they would get the last word.

Personally, I block people when I realize there's no point in continuing the conversation. I'm not trying to win an argument, I'm just over it and don't want to interact with their toxicity.

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[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

I've blocked a lot too. Mostly people who have closed minds and aren't listening just waiting for their turn to reply. I don't have patience for that shit anymore, find someone else. *Block

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

People are trying to ‘win the argument’ for personal satisfaction. They’re not trying to self-correct or seek the truth.

How do we promote more people to cooperate instead of compete in the mutual pursuit of truth while maintaining humility and introspection that their own views could be incorrect?

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Different format of discussion.

Social media: people trying to win binary points 👍👎

Wikipedia, scientific discussion, or a deliberative assembly: slow process towards writing a statement of a position, with lots of study along the way

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 5 points 22 hours ago

Not everyone is seeking truth.

That's the problem

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I think the only thing that has really changed is that way more people just talk about who and what they block instead of just blocking and moving on.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 13 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Blocking is tempting when someone actively ignores arguments but keeps coming back with the same thing over and over, or can't avoid ad hominem attacks.

That said, my block list is empty, but I have tagged people so I know if I'm running into them again.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty much exactly the same here. Can you tag people on Lemmy (how?) or do you do it on a separate text file?

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

I use Voyager and it supports tagging.

[–] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Bots, trolls, egomanics, thin skinneds.

[–] webp@mander.xyz 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Does that leave anyone left?

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[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

I think there is a difference between different people - and maybe it has changed generationally too. I can think of some obvious potential reasons though:

  1. the number of people who are being horrible is increasing. The increasing division in society is reflected online. That means people have more reason to block people.
  2. the proliferation of social media bubbles makes people less used to encountering opinions that differ significantly from their own.

I usually find myself blocked by people who just disagree with me. I (increasingly) rarely lose my rag online, but people find it annoying to have someone reply to them who disagrees on certain things and who doesn't just shut up and go away quickly.

I have a pretty high tolerance for that kind of irritation but after a few dozen replies back and forth I'll also use the block button. It's less about not seeing their posts in the future, more as a way to force myself to disengage and get annoyed again.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 13 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Like another commenter said, polarization and cemented, frequently extreme, views. You're not going to change their mind on anything, but they're constantly trying to change your mind on everything. I consider them shills and hit that block button.

I also block people who are here "on a mission" for whatever cause. Social media has enough activists, and even if I agree with them, I'm still thinking "will you shut up, man?".

I also block people who intentionally take others out of context as an excuse to attack them or inject drama into every interaction. There's plenty of that to go around, and thankfully, there doesn't seem to be a limit on the number of blocks I can issue.

Basically, I'm not here for drama or activism or circle-jerking any political cause or to suffer immature edgelords. I just wanna talk about cool stuff with rational people. Blocking helps separate the wheat from the chaff in that regard. Anyone who has a pattern of making this place unenjoyable gets blocked IDK

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 hours ago

I blocked pretty freely on Twitter till I left the site around when I got the Bluesky invite. I still block freely on there, but not Reddit or Lemmy. I didn't on Reddit cause there was a cap on how many accounts you can have blocked and Lemmy doesn't handle blocks in a way I like so I just don't bother. I like being able to curate my experience and the experience others that interact with me have. I got no energy for shit stains so blocking is easier than constantly knowing they exist.

[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

I think it's more of a space curation thing. As a tumblr user mentioned, "I pressed a button to get rid of an annoying guy and I would do it again".

It's been common advice for a while now to block people you are about to tantrum at. I do like that it's finally catching on.

[–] tal@olio.cafe 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I haven't blocked anyone on this account, but it's new.

On my last one, I think I blocked three users. I believe all were basically trying to flood a community so that it was unreadable (one, IIRC, was just posting the same large Simpsons or Futurama image repeatedly throughout a thread to try to stop people from talking).

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago

I don't tend to block unless there was clear malice or it is being done in bad faith. Prime examples of this would be accounts that when I look at their history is almost exclusively argumentative posts(this is generally prompted by another reason), people who do personal attacks instead of standard discussion, and people whom it's clear that they aren't trying to add to the conversation, and are trying to derail or push an agenda.

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I think it's related to echo chamber behaviour. A way to filter out any dissenting voice because any one that disagrees is as annoying a spammer and as hurtful as a bully.

And at the same time is not that different from walking away from any rando from the street that most probably I won't see ever again. Lol.

I don't know, I personally don't block people, instead I use lots of tags to remember past interactions.

[–] Battle_Masker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You say "civil disagreements" but from what I've seen blocking mostly happens when they sidestep the issue with a personal attack or ad hominid response.

Also I've seen some blocking just on people being associated with known bad actors like hatemongers or somebody's stalker

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[–] Cobrachicken@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Views, positions have gotten more extreme and cemented at that. Probably due to algorithms of "traditional" social media, that focus on them to raise clicks. (This trend to extreme positions and freaking out on the slightest trigger is also noticeable in real life behaviour, imho.) I sometimes block folks because I know there will not be a frank exchange of views but pure hate, extremism.

Plus spammers.

[–] Acamon@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

I don't think I ever blocked anyone on reddit, but I've been pretty block happy on lemmy. Mostly because it's a smaller community. With reddit, it was easy enough to unsubscribe from the big popular communities and focus on my niche interests and rigorously modded communities like askHistorians. That way I mostly saw stuff that was genuinely interesting to me. And if someone was annoying, they were just one voice among thousands.

Here on lemmy, there's not enough activity to be overly selective, and I actually enjoy the casual vibe of asklemmy, showerthoughts and nostupidquestions. While I'd never visit their reddit counterparts, here the community is small and it feels more personal. But this also means that there's the occasional poster who I'd rather just not have to see. So, to keep my time on lemmy enjoyable, I block them.

I don't really think it's a big deal, I don't even think it's a criticism of those posters. It's really just that the content of their posts / comments are something that doesn't add value to my experience. I've blocked well-intentioned, but obviously teenage, users because I'm not interested in their personal life questions (but they're entitled to ask!); I blocked someone just for posting too many moth memes when I was getting sick of that fad.

I'm pretty sure I've never blocked anyone for disagreeing with me or my beliefs, but if someone seems like their trolling, or simply has such poor social communication skills that they are coming across that way, I'll block them. I generally look at users history and check if I'm likely to miss anything in the future. But invariably, the type of user I consider blocking generally has a bunch of dumb, negative or uninteresting comments and posts.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 19 hours ago

Because you can go through your whole life with zero negative social corrections. It's a low trust, collapse of society thing

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I have done this a few times, for me it was just that I was writing a reply and 80% through I realized that I didn't want to argue any more, so I blocked the guy after posting it, just so I wouldn't get any more crap to deal with.

[–] crimsonpoodle@pawb.social 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

So I get this feeling— and I don’t mean to say your mode of operation is not valid— but why not just stop replying? I’ve never been in a situation where I’ve had an argument in a thread and one side stopped talking and it continued for more than two posts or something.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

Follow-up to this question after seeing many responses (and thank you): What is your default mode for self-doubt when engaging in discussions?

That is, no matter how confident you may be in something, do you maintain an open door, or are your beliefs you block over completely set in stone?

For me, little terrifies me more than becoming the thing I hate; to be clouded by my own cognitive bias; to inadvertently throw myself into an echo-chamber of self-validation. As such I try my best to always maintain at least the slightest bit of doubt in even my strongest beliefs, and to that end to at least let dialogue challenging that come through.

[–] Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 16 hours ago

Little bit of a pointer but you can edit your post and title.

Anyways, digressing there. But, I am always willing to hear some alternative takes from different people with different perspectives. The dealbreaker is in the approach. If you cannot come into a discussion, a conversation, a debate or anything without feeling the need to put down someone to prove a point or be self-righteous? You can go fuck yourself and be placed in the blocked bin.

And even so, there is only so much irrational and wild things people do and say that just upsets the vibe with someone or groups to where, blocking can be seen as a way to filter that out.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 points 22 hours ago

For me, it depends on the context, and how the person responded to the comment.

If the reply had little to no contribution to my comment, that's whatever I can ignore and move on, but if the reply is a clear "I'm trying to siderail this/ignoring what was actually said" or "I'm attacking you directly instead of the topic at hand" then I'm pretty firm in blocking. I don't block for disagreement period, it's when it moves into the unproductive field that I start to ignore or I block.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

First, I rarely am fully self-confident about factual matters. I've been around the block a few times but I can't possibly have experienced everything from every perspective or maybe there's an unspoken assumption that another person has that differs from mine. I see that in a lot of code discussions. You have to do this or that is always bad, but they just work in a different industry and what has been true every single time for them has never been true for me.

Second, I never block anyone just because they disagree. I block them because they are being an asshole about it or maybe because I'm emotionally compromised and need to prevent myself from engaging with them. On Bluesky I've created a timeout block list I throw people in when it's me and not them, and I clear it out every so often.

Anyway, sometimes it's just not fruitful or pleasant to talk with some people even if they are good people. I wish Lemmy had something I could use as a timeout like named block lists or block reasons. I don't know who is a spammer, who is an asshole, or who was just on the other side of an issue or post I needed some distance from.

I've blocked a couple of people who just wanted to harp on one thing ask day every day and even though I agreed with them or at least didn't hate them I needed to block them for my blood pressure. I'm not letting any of you fuckers give me a heart attack in the name of civil discourse.

But also, it is doing everyone a favor. I am an AI enthusiast / realist, which means a lot of people who just hate everything AI probably have me blocked. And that's a good thing for us because we aren't constantly bickering about it, but also good for the community because no one really likes to watch people constantly argue, no matter how considerately.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Very well said, and I think that's a reasonable take. A balance between protecting yourself but also not necessarily promoting a self-validating echo-chamber. Temporary blocks are genius.

It's funny you mention the AI thing. I'm no pro or anything but I am a software engineer and was recently blocked by someone for just noting that AI has its uses in the fight against extremist hate and online discourse and that we shouldn't necessarily limit our tool box in the fight against fascism — especially when it's being used against us. That's actually what spurred my thinking about these knee-jerk blocks.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Social media split and modified people so much they're often immediately feeling threatened and block that out, imo.

I'm quite happy to have had some discussions (!) on lemmy where I or the other person could explain the view or clear the (mis)understanding and both be wiser people afterwards.

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