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[–] AlexanderTheIronFist@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Tomorrow I'll be going at a local news radio to talk about "religious freedom in China". I think I've prepared well, but any extra material is very welcome.

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 day ago

I wish you good luck. Moments like that might be important to whomever is listening.

[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 day ago

This post might help a lot -> https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9155093

Basically, the post might help to add to the point that China wants to keep religion within healthy boundaries and prosecutes dangerous practices that will hurt people(such as the US evangelicals selling blessings for 1 000 USD).

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Qiao Collective has a whole set of resources if you go to the topleft corner of the page, click it, and search around or use the search bar in the website:

https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/socialism-with-chinese-characteristics

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 day ago

Went to sleep at a friends house who is a history buff. Woke up underneath a huge portret of Lenin. Felt good.

[–] ProudCascadian@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're coming for Portland. I don't know what to do.

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ProudCascadian@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 19 hours ago
[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Turbo BASED if Petro actually did it

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 days ago

I had a bad feeling about Gustavo Petro and it seems that he has a mixed performance.

Which is above my expectations.

[–] CommonTern@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Most of the anti-ICE organizers I know in my American city are anarchists who are opposed to anything that isn’t “spontaneous” or “autonomous” and try to discourage people from joining or allying with any parties or organizations that try to organize against ICE. They complain that any higher level of organization “co-opts” or “saps energy” from the movement and limits anti-ICE activity to peaceful protesting. If they made these criticisms and then did more themselves then I could get on board with it but when I sat with them during their attempt to blockade a garage that was being used by ICE vehicles I watched as they literally got up and moved the barriers out of the way every time a vehicle needed to pass through. They have bragged about supposedly getting into physical fights with cops during an anti-ICE protest but it seems like that didn’t ultimately make any difference for immigrants. The only other actions I see them encourage are small unaffiliated peaceful protests originating within immigrant communities or documenting and monitoring ICE. I never see them try to grow this baseline into anything that could effectively drive ICE from the city or stop the kidnappings. WTF do I do here. What Is to Be Done. I feel hopeless.

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 23 hours ago

Pretty much what @cfgaussian said. I'm in a similar boat as well.

One of those "grit your teeth" moments where you still try and make friends the best you can in the simplest way of putting it. I always liked meeting newer members and even if they fell out it was good to still keep in touch with some people.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

WTF do I do here.

The only thing you can do. You continue to educate, agitate and do your best to try and organize. Organization is the most powerful tool that the proletariat has at its disposal in the class war. Political natural selection will take care of the anarchists and their obstinate refusal to organize. Effective strategies that can demonstrate success will win the support of the masses while those tactics which go nowhere will fail to win support and will remain irrelevant.

[–] CommonTern@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now they’re comparing resisting ICE to Hong Kong protestors resisting the see see pee

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 day ago

I mean, that's like...whatever. It's irrelevant, it's ancient history. Hong Kong has moved on and China has moved on. I wouldn't waste any effort debating that point with libs. Let them make whatever comparisons they want. What's important is that there is organized resistance.

[–] SmokeyTheBear@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago (4 children)

China is BAD if only the silly easterners would listen to the very successful western ultras like myself they would actually be communist!

Oh my bad I thought this was the hexbear news com. /s

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

No, no you fucking tankie China should deploy the entire military to the middle-east and use their export economy to globally project their power across the world on Israel. /s

No, but seriously, as shitty as it sounds; I don't think China has a responsibility to do anything for Palestine, as grim and horrible as that sounds. They are not a part of the West, they have no colonial ties to Palestine from colonizer nations (meaning, you aren't from a ex-colonial nation or settler one, etc).

They had no hand in creation or even a historical role in their creation or a part to play if you don't entirely separate the CPC from the Dynasty periods (as you should). This doesn't mean they don't feel great sympathy, nor have solidarity with Palestine. They have done much for them despite being on the other half of the world.

"But they trade with Israel" is such a stupid fucking point when you consider how much of the world is financially and economically connected...especially when they're an export economy. I don't like XHS's posts sometimes but at least he has sense and reason behind the points that he makes.

Any extreme or hostile move trade-wise or economically on a erratic and already hostile United States that is your major import partner could jeopardize the balance and conditions of development that are quite good for China as of now. That is their main focus and has been compared to the very different history of it's historical past when it's dynasties used to either imperialize via tributaries or conquest. There's entire books written about reflections from then and now.

[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 23 hours ago

Good post and very succinct way to write this down! 👏

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If I were Xi, I would simply press the full communism button. All that's covering it is this thing labeled "dialectical and historical materialism" but that can't be anything important.

[–] SmokeyTheBear@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

Lol exactly. Theyre literally indistinguishable from fed reddit posters at this point.

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is it that bad over there these days?

[–] SmokeyTheBear@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Oh yeah https://hexbear.net/post/6233308/6530502 Its bad https://hexbear.net/post/6251000/6536572?sort=Top

I find it crazy that they will ban people for the most childish, petty, stupid shit. Yet will allow blatant wrecker ultras on there with zero pushback.

I've been on here long enough to remember when they refederated. It was going to be good because it's a pro-AES space. Whoops looks like that went out the window quickly!

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 23 hours ago

I find it crazy that they will ban people for the most childish, petty, stupid shit. Yet will allow blatant wrecker ultras on there with zero pushback.

It depends on the context of what is "childish, petty, stupid shit" but generally I have noticed some strange priorities and a bit of a persistent toxicity that seems to end up in fruitless struggle sessions. News thread is still great otherwise, but yeah, you aren't wrong in that I've noticed quite a shift on China recently.

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 days ago

jesus. I thought there was bad egg in the admin team like a year ago. Now it looks like a full blown trot/fed infestation.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Heh. Gottem.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago
[–] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 days ago
[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There are days when dealing with capitalism feels like a parody version of real life. The fuckton layers of parties involved in any given process, the underpaid CS who don't have enough time to read what you're saying and/or are too constrained to give more than boilerplate answers, the technological systems that are badly designed or go in and out of maintenance whenever. There's so much convoluted nonsense. And this on top of it being in the US, a country whose power brokers are actively pulverizing it for their short term ends.

Dead Internet Theory is one thing, but some days, it feels like capitalism resembles something like what I might call "Dead Management Theory" - like nobody is actually in charge, in a meaningful capacity that can smoothly operate what actually needs to occur. I'm exaggerating of course (just as I don't literally believe in Dead Internet Theory), obviously some things continue to function, but it feels very empty at times in terms of organization and clerical efficiency. I don't think it's that management is literally missing exactly, but it's like there's this molasses effect on the process, due to all the layers of bullshit, that if something is a little off, it's a way bigger deal than it should be? Like for a fictional representation, when Peter Gibbons forgets about TPS reports and gets reminded about it by eight different bosses. It feels sorta like that. Like there's more organizational going through the motions than there is practical functionality.

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

See this a lot in my job which focusses on unemployment benefits. An application has to go through at least three different orgs and can take up to two months or more to be completed. And if something goes wrong between the instances, good luck. Sometimes it seems like nobody can fix it then and it's all finger pointing. For what it's worth it drives us employees insane too. Like driving a car with square tires: you can't move forward.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Makes sense that it would bug the employees as well. I'd imagine you want to be able to solve problems for people, so struggling to be able to due to processes that are multi-layered and unwieldy, I can see how that'd be frustrating.

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The word you are looking for is "Kafkaesque." I've only read The Trial but he really nailed that feeling down.

I feel like living in western society at the moment is a mashup of 1984, The Trial, and Dr. Strangelove.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Interesting, I've never read The Trial, but now I'm curious. I have definitely seen Dr. Strangelove though. I think the most unrealistic part of Dr. Strangelove is the idea that the US president has good intentions lol. But the general circus act absurdity of it, yeah. In the US, the health secretary being anti-vax definitely feels like parody writing (though since it's real, it's less funny and more just ridiculously dangerous).

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 days ago

You should it dances back and forth between entertaining with its hyperbole and absurdity and then being excruciatingly dull with its descriptions of bureaucratic processes that make you want to pull your hair out.

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 4 days ago

Saw some news article from my hometown of a guy making a website about our local language/dialect. He wants it to be preserved as fewer people speak it on a daily basis now. In the state of Northern Brabant we have our own dialect but the dialect from my hometown is even more different and, imo, pretty unique. Other people from Brabant would have difficulty to understand me, for example.

You're supposed to speak proper Dutch if you want others to understand you, of course, and that's why fewer people speak it. It's kinda looked down upon as lowly educated / trash, which is sad. My dad still speaks it on a daily basis. He never got the opportunity to go to school so never learned further than the dialect lol. I can speak and understand it though living abroad and with my gf from another part of The Netherlands, there's no use in speaking it. But reading the website I agreed with him and I feel like I should just speak it when at home. Would be a shame for things like that to disappear.

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Slight chance emerging of me moving back to The Netherlands. Communism coming soon.

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[–] Jarmund@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Just saw the UK's speech at the UN general assembly and its the one who contained thr most time and emphasis tqlking about AI... i am left to wonder how much Nvidia money is in the UK government.

[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 5 days ago
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