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China Installed More Solar Panels Last Year Than the U.S. Has in Total::China installed more new solar capacity last year than the total amount ever installed in any other country.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its because China isn't beholden to a bunch of invisible suits demanding money over all else. Apparently the US can't break from Citizens United, and tell this corpos whats what to literally save its own skin.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lol XDDDDD

Thinking China isn't beholden to an invisible elite is the laugh I needed today

How did their presidential election go again?

  • 2952 votes for

  • 0 votes against

  • 0 votes abstain

[–] occhionaut@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was done with the express purpose of having the title of it. Its a vanity project that wont last 10 years.

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bigger country does things bigger, more at 11.

[–] Poutinetown@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, now I expect Canada to install more solar panels than China has in total.

[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then next is Russia. I like this common sense concept!

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

china also has more population than any other country

[–] hark@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

US total wealth: 139+ trillion (in USD)

China total wealth: 84+ trillion (in USD)

It's not a function of population. It's a function of wealth and the will to use that wealth to invest in clean energy. The US has entrenched interests in keeping the oil flowing. China isn't investing in clean energy for altruism, they do it because they don't have rich reserves of oil, but at least they're doing the right thing, even if it's not necessarily for the right reasons.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed that wealth also is a relevant parameter. But it is also a function of the population because what fraction of your population's power consumption is coming from a renewable source is a more interesting metric than your raw renewable power production.

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a reason the US is targeting China from various fronts (trade restrictions, sanctions, etc.). China is a powerhouse and the US is terrified of being left behind.

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't get why you're getting dowvoted. I guess there are a lot of Americans over here. But your statement is absolutely true. The US attempts at restricting China's access to various technologies only make sense if they feel threatened by them.

[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It just could be, maybe, military posturing.

Because I don't remember any restrictions for as long as China didn't intend to start the WW3.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good. I assume it helps that most of the world's solar panel manufacturing is based in China.

The rest of the world should be ramping up production, not relying on China for cheap labour.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Currently seeing the US climate narrative shift from "why should we stop burning fossils and get our shit together when China won't? >:(" to "why should we stop burning fossils and get our shit together when Senegal won't? >:(" Can't wait for 20 years from now when we're balls deep in climate disasters, Senegal gets its shit together, and the US narrative moves to ~~honduras~~ ~~El Salvador~~ ~~Uganda~~ comparing itself to the Philippines.

Holy crap you guys, it turns out that the narrative that the developing world is going to burn an ass-ton of fossil fuels is a lot weaker than I thought. It looks like there's a fuckton of equatorial and global south countries with renewables/hydro power, Honduras is even adding Geothermal. God damn it, USA, get off your ass and fix your shit already.

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We've moved from 17% to 40% of total energy production coming from renewables since 2020. Thanks to Biden policies. Even though according to reddit he's an incontinent dementia patient.

[–] pedalmore@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Source? I haven't seen final numbers for 2023 from EIA yet, but 2022 was like 22%. The growth is accelerating as economics change, and in large part the IRA (thanks Biden), but it's not 40%. I'm speaking of electricity production, but I can't think of a reasonable metric that's anywhere near 40% nationally. Let's try to stick to reality here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_United_States

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] pedalmore@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You said renewables are 40%, which is wrong. Then you sourced articles showing that carbon free sources are 40%, which includes nuclear. Nobody calls nuclear "renewable", so I suggest getting your language straight so as not to confuse.