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[–] oplkill@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Replace CEOs by AI

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 hours ago

"misrepresent" is a vague term. Actual graph from the study

The main issue is usual.. sources. AI is bad at sources without a proper pipeline. They note that Gemini is the worst at 72%.

Note, they're not testing models with their own pipeline. They're testing other people's products. This is more indicative of the product design than the actual models

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I've had someone else's AI summarize some content I created elsewhere, and it got it incredibly wrong to the point of changing the entire meaning of my original content.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Makes sense. I have used AI for software development tasks such as manipulating SQL queries and XML files (tedious things) and am always disappointed with how AI will misinterpret some things. But it’s obvious with those when the requests fail. But for things like “the news” where there is no QA team to point out the defect, it will be much harder to notice. And when AI starts (or continues) to use AI generated posts as sources, it will get much worse.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I dont understand the use people make of AI. I know a lot of of professionnal composer who are like "That's awesome, AI does the music for me now!" and I'm like, cool, now you only have the boring part of the job to do since the fun part was made by AI. Creating the music is litteraly the only fun part, I hate everything around it.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's a word predictor. It is good at simple text processing. Think local code refactoring, changing the style or structure of a small text piece, or summarizing small text pieces into even smaller text pieces. It is ok at synthesizing new text that has similar structure to the training corpus. Think generating repetitive boilerplate or copywriting. It is very bad at recalling or checking facts, logic, mathematics, and everything else that people seem to be using it for nowadays.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The AI creating music is not an LLM

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

Ah, sorry, missed the context

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 29 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

There’s a few replies talking about humans misrepresenting the news. This is true, but part of the problem here is that most people understand the concept of bias - even if only to the extent of “my people neutral, your people biased”. But this is less true for LLMs. There’s research which shows that because LLMs present information authoritatively that not only do people tend to trust them, but they’re actually less likely to check the sources that the LLM provides than they would be with other forms of being presented with information.

And it’s not just news. I’ve seen people seriously argue that fringe pseudo-science is correct because they fed a very leading prompt into a chatbot and got exactly the answer they were looking for.

[–] Best_Jeanist@discuss.online 3 points 7 hours ago

I wonder if people trust ChatGPT more or less than an international celebrity who is also their best friend.

[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The info-sphere today is already a highly delusional place and news can be often contradictory, even from day to day especially by outlets like BCC who is more focused on setting global narratives, not being a reporter of facts as best understood at the moment. No wonder AI would be confused, most readers are confused when navigating every statement made by experts or anonymous officials on every subject. Seems like this study really measured an AI models ability to vomit out the same text in different words and avoiding using any outside context be it accurate or hallucination.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 41 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I wish they had broke it out by AI. The article states:

"Gemini performed worst with significant issues in 76% of responses, more than double the other assistants, largely due to its poor sourcing performance."

But I don't see that anywhere in the linked PDF of the "full results".

This sort of study should also be re-done from time to time to track AI version numbers.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 14 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

It doesn't really matter, "AI" is being asked to do a task it was never meant to do. It isn't good at it, and it will never be good at it.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Wow, way to completely ignore the content of the comment you're replying to. Clearly, some are better than others... so, how do the others perform? It's worth knowing before we make assertions.

The excerpt they quoted said:

"Gemini performed worst with significant issues in 76% of responses, more than double the other assistants, largely due to its poor sourcing performance."

So that implies that "the other assistants" performed more than twice as well, so presumably that means encountering serious issues less than 38% of the time (still not great, but better). But they said "more than double the other assistants", does that mean double the rate of one of the others or double the average of the others? If it's an average it would mean that some models probably performed better, while others performed worse.

This was the point, what was reported was insufficient information.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 13 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Using an LLM to return accurate information is like using a shoe to hammer a nail.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] snooggums@piefed.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Nope, my soles are too soft.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

Except that a shoe is vaguely hammer ish. More like pounding a screw in with your forehead.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 10 points 11 hours ago

Will they change their disclaimer now, from "can be wrong" to "is often wrong"? /s

[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

And then I wonder how frequently humans misinterpret the mistranslated news.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Humans do it often, but they don't have billions of dollars funding their responses.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Worse: One third of adult actually believe the shit the AI produces.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yet the LLM seems to be what everyone is pushing, because it will supposedly get better. Haven't we reached the limits of this model and shouldn't other types of engines be tried?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

shouldn’t other types of engines be tried?

Sure, but the tricky bit is to be more specific than that.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Well, you know...

"Waves vaguely"

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Parrot is wrong almost half of the time. Who knew?

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 9 hours ago

Do you realize what you just said????!!!

Wow! They have reached parrot intelligence!

Next they might teach it to butterfly! You know, like you're off the ground and going somewhere in open air, but they just keep building shit right where you're flying.... And lamps!

From there, who knows?!

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 14 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Precision, nuance, and up to the moment contextual understanding are all missing from the “intelligence.”

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Like the average American with an 8th grade reading comprehension.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Which is what they used for the training data.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 14 hours ago

So it's about on par with humans, then.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

buT AI iS hERe tO StAY

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 1 points 14 hours ago

So less of a percentage than the readers and mass media