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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/38203670

Jeff Cohen
Oct 28, 2025

This week began with the release of a report titled “Deciding to Win,” claiming to light the way “toward a common sense renewal of the Democratic Party.”

But the first mention of healthcare is so far from reality that the authors might have more accurately titled their report “Deciding to Lie.” The report declares that Medicare for All is in the category of “unpopular economic policies.” The claim is false. But it’s in sync with the corporate sensibilities and wishful thinking of party operatives like James Carville, whose praise of the document appears on its first page.

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[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Medicare for all is very unpopular with centrist Democrats.

The centrist position always favors corporate wealth and reduced taxes for the wealthy over societal health.

[–] original_charles@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Centrist Democrat politicians, sure. When they polled Centrist Democrat voters, they still supported it more often than not.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There seems to be a pretty large difference between a centrist voter and a centrist Democrat. Centrist Democrats tend to be more like a Republican in every way economically with some liberal social views at most.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

In other words, the Dem leadership isn't anywhere near accurately representative of the people and thus needs to be replaced by people who are as soon as possible.

[–] hatorade@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

And if you suggest that at all, the rest of .world says you hate America and want Trump to win.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"our shit sandwich has mustard! How dare you point out that it's still a shit sandwich!"

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"Not Dijon mustard, though. Gotta let ourselves be needlessly constrained by the baseless propaganda of the opposition!"

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

... what? What are you even talking about? All of the sentiment on here I've seen has been "primary the shit out of these fucks and then vote for the least bad in the general". I think the only take that gets flak is "well, I'm not gonna vote for such-and-such in the general because we deserve better representation", which just gives it to the greater evil.

[–] hatorade@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Try calling out Newsom for his shit politics in any thread that has him, it's a coin toss is they agree or say you're a Russian bot for not liking a transphobe.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes

Those folks are well funded so they will not step away from power without a fight.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's funny how the people with the most funding are the ones in charge and the people whose policies the majority agree with are constantly maligned as unhinged and impractical radicals!

It's almost like the system itself (which the funded politicians revere with literally religious fervor) is undemocratic and inherently favors the moneyed elite over the will of the people in general 🤔

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago

The DNC will fight anyone that plans to be the next FDR.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

An Economist/You Gov poll of more than 1,500 adult citizens, conducted in July of this year, found that Medicare for All was supported by 59 percent of those polled (including 36 percent who “strongly support”)—and opposed by only 27 percent. Medicare for All was supported by almost every demographic group, including ideological “moderates” (67% to 17%) and those who identify as “independents” (57% to 24%/56% to 18%). The only demographics with a majority opposing it were Trump supporters, conservatives or Republicans/Republican-leaners. Despite fervent opposition from Wall Street and health insurance companies, the Medicare for All Act was introduced in April of this year with more than 100 co-sponsors in the House of Representatives. Gallup’s annual healthcare survey in November 2024 asks a similar, but different, question—whether “it is the responsibility of the federal government to make sure all Americans have healthcare coverage” or not. The percentage responding yes has risen to 62 percent, while just 36 percent said no. In 2020 Democratic primaries in Southern states that pitted Bernie Sanders (a Medicare for All supporter) against Joe Biden (an opponent), most Democrats supported Medicare for All (according to NBC News exit polls) even in states that Biden won overwhelmingly. In Mississippi, where Biden bested Bernie by 81 to 15 percent, 6 in 10 Democrats in exit polls supported replacing all private health insurance with Medicare for All vs. 32% opposed.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 3 points 3 months ago

The US is not a democracy

[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Which is why we'll be ruled by a Republican monarchy for at least a generation.

Because I'm sure as hell not voting against universal healthcare or trans rights or debt cancellation.