Which is why Israel is making sure there are no Palestinians left. Their solution is a final solution.
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Pope Leo said on Sunday that the only solution in the decades-long conflict between Israel and the Palestinian people must include a Palestinian state, reaffirming the Vatican's position.
Title sounded like he was supporting a single state solution with Palestine as the state, but it's the same two state solution that Vatican has supported for some time
Yeah, so it's just empty rhetoric.
Rename it Sky Daddy Land and let it be run by a council of atheists.
Then the Palestinians and Israelis will have a common enemy and will stop fighting.
Stop obfuscating this fight has little to do with religion its due to a settler colony and its expansion and resistance to it.
Judaism plays a huge part in Israel's Jewish supremacy ethnostate. They're not creating an atheistic secular Jewish nation.
Yeah, but how do they keep track of who is the settler, and who is the native - hint: begins with 'r'.
Culture? Language? Skin color? Fucking names?
Really obvious differences in skin color and culture
Race?
Rhymes with three pigeons
Respectfully, religion really isn't the cause, it's just correlated with ethnicity, like language.
This pope has proven to be decent so far hopefully Peter Thiel doesn’t send Vance to suck his soul out
Well since the genocide is almost done I don't think that this is the only solution
I guess it depends on what you mean by almost done. They've taken 50% of the land in gaza. They've killed 3% of the Gaza strip and .06% of the West Bank. These are massive extinction events by population percentage, but the Palestinians are still very much there. As soon as people give up, the Palestinians are in a much much worse state than they already are.
It won't be as easy for them to push through the other 50% without displacing or killing 2 million people, which is a world of difference from 70,000. I'm not optimistic, but I also don't see a current path for Israel to "finish the genocide" that doesn't simultaneously eliminate a large percentage of their remaining political and economic power in the process. On the other hand fascist counties aren't know to act rational. Either way, this genocide is far from over. Imo, it will last at least another decade, if not much longer, if it's bent on geographic, cultural, and/or population annihilation. I think there is at least some hope that the political winds can change before that happens.
You're assuming they stop at their own border.
I can think of another one.
What if religion was separated from government, and all people were treated equally under secular law, as is the case in every advanced country where even non-cis-males are allowed to read freely and have a complex pluralistic civilization ?
IOW what if all the Sky Daddy people fucked off with their cosplay and let the adults manage things?
Ok great. So now Israel is just committing a secular genocide without the veneer of religion. I don't see that that's better.
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WhenxSecular countries are supporting the terrorist state of Israel you know that it is not about religion
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know what a state without religion looks like? palestine.
Exactly - this is being missed because the propaganda has framed this as a 'Jews vs. Muslims' religious conflict.
It's not. It's an ethnostate built for Zionists, not Jews - as shown by the way the state is treating orthodox Rabbis who are protesting against the occupation.
Again little to do with religion its colonialism dummy.
Uh... The Nakba was committed by secular atheists. Stop trying to pin this on religion.
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This is liberal Zionist gaslighting. Its like saying the only solution to Apartheid South Africa is for the blacks to have their own bantustan.
The only solution which no one in the mainstream dares to say is to dismantle the genocidal state built on Jewish supremacy.
Two-State Solution has never been viable for the same reason Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan have never been viable outside the sphere of Israeli influence. Any state that isn't aligned with Israel is targeted for a combination of assassinations/bombings and infiltration/regime change.
Why would an "independent" Palestine be any different? A popular government would never be allowed to rule. At best, you'd have an Egyptian style military dictatorship or Jordanian monarchy which rules the public with an iron fist. At worst, you'd have a Libya or Yemen, where the native government is merely a proxy for the Israelis to continue their genocide of the local population.
agree that the only solution is one state for all. basically expand the right of return.
the "two state solution" isn't a solution, but just Israel following basic international law. Which is too high a bar for Israel
You don't say?
Realistically, I don't see the conflict ending until climate change renders the area an uninhabitable wasteland.
Given how climate change seems to be accelerating, this is probably a few decades.
Not equal rights for Palestinians? Huh...
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