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Do we really need West and South when we can use negative North and negative East?

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 11 points 8 hours ago

So you'd have states like North Dakota and Negative North Dakota?

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 16 hours ago

Why do we have subtraction when we can just add a negative number?

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago

Why do we have down when we can just use negative up?

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 11 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I would not be surprised compasses were invented before negative numbers

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negative numbers : 200 BCE
compasses : as early as 202 BCE

(these are just from a cursory search, I am not a specialist)

[–] droning_in_my_ears@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why do we have 26 letters? Why not just communicate in binary!

01010100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01110110 01100101 01110010 01111001 00100000 01101110 01100001 01110100 01110101 01110010 01100001 01101100 00100001

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

55 73 65 20 68 65 78 20 66 6f 72 20 74 65 72 73 65 6e 65 73 73 20 62 72 75 68 0a 0a 41 6c 73 6f 20 74 68 69 73 20 69 73 20 73 74 69 6c 6c 20 61 73 73 75 6d 69 6e 67 20 55 54 46 2d 38 20 6f 72 20 61 74 20 6c 65 61 73 74 20 41 53 43 49 49 2c 20 73 6f 20 77 74 68 20 6c 6d 61 6f

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

On the other hand, 8000+ characters seems kinda fun...

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[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago

oh you salty dog you

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Why do we have 2 separate words for good and bad? Good and ungood are totally sufficient.

(reference)

[–] dbx12@programming.dev 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Spin it further and get rid of "great" and "outstanding". I suggest using plus good and double plus good.

[–] Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's actually how it works in Irish. The word for good is deas, while the word for bad is deas prefixed with the negating particle , so mídheas.

(There are still separate words for tge cardinal directions).

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 18 hours ago

Is it? I tried checking in a dictionary but it didn't list mídheas as a word and "deas" was defined as right/nice/honest, not just "good"

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[–] EponymousBosh@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago

This is just the Minecraft coordinates system and it sucks. "OK I'm at the coords, where's the--oh fuck, it was -3002, 108 not 3002, 108."

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the four cardinal points bother you, better not look up wind roses or rhumbline networks...

A rather simple one.

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[–] calamityjanitor@lemmy.world 112 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the idea of directions came before the idea of negative.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Walking backward is just walking negatively forward by another name

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Negative north negative east airlines doesn't have a good ring to it though.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

How about 225° airlines?

[–] mech@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago

"negative Eastern countries" has a nice ring to it.

[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago

Just guessing here, but I would think it's for for clarity and brevity. West and South are shorter to say and distinct enough to avoid being easily misheard causing somebody to go in the opposite direction than intended.

[–] markz@suppo.fi 47 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] colourlesspony@pawb.social 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Exactly, we don't need to be right at all.

[–] 667@lemmy.radio 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Clockwise and anticounterclockwise

[–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Double plus ungood

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How would that be any easier?

[–] Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Why stop at two, when you could stop at just one?

North

Negative North = south

Negative 90 North = west

90 North =east

[–] sznowicki@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Better idea! What if we use 0 for North and then divide the circle around by exactly 360 points? That way we don't need NSEW, we have 0, 90, 180, 270!

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

We could use one, and assume we’re operating in the field of complex numbers:

1 N = North
i N = West
i^2^ N = South
i^3^ N = East.

And we could use the complex modulus to indicate distance or speed... or we could map the Riemann sphere onto the surface of the earth and use a single complex number to indicate location.

[–] Trigger2_2000@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

Now you're talking!

[–] Agility0971@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Directions from maps: turn pi at the nearest i intersection

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[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] fizzle@quokk.au 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For most of human history people who couldn't do math, or read, or understand a map, have been communicating directions to each other.

4 directions is just enough to tell someone which way to face, without being too many to remember.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

without being too many to remember

People used to have no problem remembering the names of at least eight winds, depending on the direction...

Here are the ones used in Catalonia, for instance; we were taught them at school:

Though, to be fair, llevant means where the sun rises and ponent where it sets, migjorn means midday, which makes sense given the other two, and everyone already knew tramuntana, cause it's a headache when it blows, so it's mostly the other four we have to remember... the Greek one seems quite harder, though, then again, I'm not Greek..:

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 13 hours ago

Sure, but 4 is easier to remember?

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[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And I say we don't have enough names, we should have names for at least 30° and 45° increments.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Most Mediterranean cultures used to have names for at least eight winds, each at 45 degrees from each other. Greeks (and therefore Romans) used twelve, at 30 degrees.

Here's a classic navigator's wind rose, for instance, with 32 different directions based on eight named winds (might be a bit hard to read on dark backgrounds, here's the original SVG):

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We do, they’re just combinations of the 90 degree ones.

Southwest. North-Northeast.

Yeah, there are 32 named points on a compass, one every 11.25 degrees, you can even fractionalize it to get even more granular

Southwest by west half west for example is 242 degrees

[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What goes up, must come negative-Up

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

One step forward and two steps un-forward.

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