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In current news we could hear that the USA wants to gather a lot of data from everyone entering. This includes data of other people who aren't entering the USA, like family, maybe even contacts on the phone.

Wouldn't this mean that you need to invest a lot of time to get consent or, alternatively, pay a fine on return from the USA?

In the case of the fine, how high would it be? And if you travel to the USA again, will the fine stay the same, now that you do break the law knowingly/intentionally?

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

To any foreign nationals who unavoidably must enter the US: don’t bring ANY of your devices with you. Get a burner phone.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 4 points 4 days ago

Doesn't help anymore.

Since Palantir has already collected all your data, they know your accounts already, and what you have posted anywhere.

They just ask for your accounts in order to have an excuse like 'you have given it to us, therefore we can look it up'.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 days ago
[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 days ago
[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I suspect if you incur a fine due to your refusal to provide data, they might deny your entry next time you try to visit. Just a guess though.

You got this wrong. Europeans are breaking European privacy laws if they give the US customs data about other people (family, etc.) without their consent. The fine would be by their own country, not by the USA. And European countries typically take back all their citizens.

[–] BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I'm doing all I can to oppose this. I believe that if this is enacted it will create a bad precedence that may result in other countries adopting similar requirements. It must be firmly rejected now so strongly that no other country dares to try it. My goal is to convince hotel companies to oppose the policy because they will be hurt by less people traveling.

I urge everyone to contact hotel companies based in the US and say you won't be coming if this is enacted or say you're avoiding the US because of the Trump regime. Also in truth even if this doesn't get enacted I still strongly suggest you still avoid visiting the US. The more people who boycott the US the more companies will feel pressured to help defeat the Trump regime. Sadly in the US companies can have a lot of influence on politics although so far for the hotel companies I've checked it seems like they don't have much political spending with the exception of Robert Bigelow who's a right-wing megadonor. If you have no choice but to come to the US please consider avoiding anything he owns although judging from the Wikipedia article I think it's unlikely you'll encounter something he owns.

[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I wonder what the rules about requirements by law are. This is a fascinating question.

[–] elvith@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago

I guess - as with all other cases of 'we are required to disclose $data by law' - it might be covered as legitimate interest

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

There are no special rules for that

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

GDPR only applies to companies, not individuals. If you are entering the US with a company-owned device that contains personal data in that context, then you should speak to your company's legal department or GDPR data-controller.

The privacy laws of Germany (Datenschutzgesetz) apply to individuals, too.