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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/55094411

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[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago

It's already been taken off. The guy who requested this is a complete asshole that needs to be thrown out of office immidietly.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

It's really telling how over the last few months, the overlap of "Oh, WTF is this?" between Privacy and Technology communities have aligned more and more.

[–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 21 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

"Oh no! We must protect the poor MPA! The poor organization that's been hell bent on policing what films and media ought to contain and ensuring the multi-million dollar corporations continue to make their millions in peace!"

~ Denmark’s Ministry of Culture, probably

(nevermind the fact that countries with anti-piracy policies have not ever proved that they "repair" the so-called "market-damage" that they purport piracy has done)

[–] Lyubo@lemmy.ml 33 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

What is happening with Europe and the countries within it?

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 2 points 18 minutes ago (1 children)

They are not the bastion of liberty that everyone thought they were. Oh look, proved once more. Capitalism corrupts and corrodes every single social program, legislation, and benefit in society.

In a turn that so many people saw coming, social democracy is not immune to the wiles and whims of capital and corruption. Just like any other form of capitalism, it too will decay and dissolve. The rich want nothing but literal, chain and whip slavery over the poor of the world. These assholes are so mentally ill, they genuinely CANNOT stop hoarding, and they are so twisted by power and wealth, they wholly envision themselves as gods.

This is what liberals fail to see: if the rich truly got/ will get their way, we will be chattel slaves for them and then when their AI gets good enough, they will hunt us for sport.

I don't mean to sound like a tweaking lunatic, but I am so positive that if there is anything that we enjoy or have, the rich want us not to. They are so petty and obsessed, any situation we are in that is not literally beneath their feet is too good for us worthless poors.

We are standing on a MAJOR precipice, the liberal capitalism of old is gone, and they are gunning for everything we are and have now.

[–] ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 minutes ago

Not just capitalism but more Centralization of power in any of its many forms. We have way too much Centralization.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 10 points 8 hours ago

Surveillance capitalism

[–] Dionysus@leminal.space 7 points 16 hours ago

Give it time, there are bills proposed in some states to do the same.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 points 13 hours ago

They want to unlock the illegal streams? All hail the Danish pirate kings.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 61 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

The whole country wants to ban VPNs?

Or just a small subset of politicians in the pocket of big corporations who see their profits meld because of their own greed?

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 19 points 23 hours ago (9 children)
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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 24 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

What the hell is a foreign illegal stream?

[–] Renat@szmer.info 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I think they are a series that are not available in some countries.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago

The powers that be really don’t like the idea of unmonitored secure networks do they?

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 109 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i guess we all should have fought back on internet censorship, rather than fallen back on "well i can still vpn".

[–] flamiera@kbin.melroy.org 61 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We really should have and we have had a good track record in doing so.

SOPA, PIPA targeting online piracy have not passed in the US because of the fighting efforts.

We shouldn't be content just because we use a VPN. Companies are getting smarter about handling VPNs by putting pressure on the companies themselves.

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[–] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 18 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The Supreme Court equivalent tried that in Brazil, but soon discovered all government digital infrastructure depends on it and backpedaled.

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 4 points 17 hours ago

I'm hearing a lot about zero trust infrastructure lately and I wonder if this is the reason - the desire to eliminate VPNs. I honestly don't know enough about IT to know if that even makes sense but it wouldn't surprise me if these big corpos see the writing on the wall and are figuring out how to work sans VPN.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 218 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

What the hell is happening in Denmark at the moment??

First forcing the chat control topic upon Europe, now this?

I looked up their government, would have expected far right or so, but it is liberal social democrat...

So what happens here?

[–] gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 106 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My bet is on a lot of bigtech ~~bribes~~ lobbying

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[–] WereHacker@lemmy.ml 64 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Don't be fooled by the party names. You have to look at the policies and consequences. Danes like to feel progressive, have left leaning stuff like free education and totalitarian measures against stuff they fear. The social democratic party remained in power after Germany moved troops into Denmark in 1940. It should tell you a lot.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Something is rotten in Denmark.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

It isn't just Denmark. You see it here in Sweden, too. I'd be surprised if you didn't see it across Europe.

I'm not really happy with any of the big political parties here in Sweden. The Greens hate nuclear power so much they'd prefer to open up fossil fuelled power plants than keep nuclear ones up and running. The Left party work really hard to get out of the EU. These are both parties I align the best with.

The Social Democrats are just these milquetoast soft-core conservatives, pretending to care about issues but turning their coats the second they get the chance. Unfortunately they always end up leading any of the left-winged government coalitions, typically with the help from the Centre who then gets to dictate all the policies, so it just ends up being a centre-right government that sells out our welfare to private interests.

It's been like this for well over a decade at this point. Useless bunch, the lot of them.

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[–] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 21 points 1 day ago

The soc.dem. are not a left party anymore. The current government consists of three different center-right parties. And they have some weird priorities sometimes.

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[–] Fokeu@lemmy.zip 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Denmark is trying to implement a lot of straight up fascist laws lately...

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 19 points 22 hours ago

Shit's getting extra shitty everywhere. Its like a couple of countries went a little fash and every politician across the globe went FUCK YEAH, LET US IN ON THAT SHIT!!!

[–] tym@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

maybe lemmy at large should see the commonalities between all govts of the world making these moves instead of picking on the most obvious example and taunting citizens to "do something". It's as if there's a coordinated effort to lock the lower classes down before some kind of technology creates civil unrest worldwide.

But then again, I'm just a stoopid murican who should have fixed this by now. Not aimed at you, just a relevant jumping off point for the crap that floods these threads.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I notice this mainly from western countries. Asians and South Americans seem to recognize they arent immune from corruption and bullshit policy. Yet for some reason their western counterparts like to point the finger at other countries (namely the US) and diminish their VERY real problems. "You Americans elected a facist, what are you doing?!" Yet far right parties have been surging for the past decade in Europe and Australia.

Facism was literally birthed in the west yet they never think it will come back

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Denmark seems to want to fuck everything up lately, what's their problem?

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They can't understand each other. Because of their language.

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 143 points 1 day ago (8 children)

How do you "ban VPNs"? That's not how software works, and VPNs are... you know, a key part of a bunch of online infrastructure. I get that they mean "ban them to bypass restrictions", but the entire point of a VPN is you can't tell from the outside what it's being used for. You may as well ban thinking about butterflies. You can write it down, but you can't enforce it.

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I actually want one country to ban VPNs just so every other country can see the fallout or complete lack of enforcement

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (11 children)

VPNs are banned in some countries. At least in practice. China comes to mind and please nobody tell me „I have a friend in China and they use one!“ That friend is either breaking the law, or a state agent or foreigner where that law doesn‘t apply. Hotels have that as part of their service for tourists because why the hell would anyone travel to a country with basically no internet? Of course they are exempt.

But Chinese citizens are absolutely not allowed to use VPNs to break through the great firewall. The overwhelming majority wouldn‘t even know how. But of course most of them know at least one person who can.

So in theory the law is useless but in practice it‘s very effective to control information. Whatever the case it‘s nothing a democracy should pursuit. Ever.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Let me tell how how much people actually follow laws in China.

I was born while the One Child Policy was in effect. My mother already gave birth to my older brother. Basically, my existence is illegal.

As you can see, clearly I'm not dead. They didn't manage to kill me, just demanded my parents paid a massive fine and denied legal papers until they did so.

Honestly if you just browse and don't post anything too serious, are they really gonna go after everyone who use a VPN. I mean, say even if just 1% uses a VPN. That's 1,400,000 people. Are they gonna lock up a million people? Really? Surely they have bigger fishes to catch. (Edit: 1% of 1.4 billion is actually 14 million, good luck locking that many people lolz)

As for control of information, internarional phone calls aren't blocked, you can send letters. My mom regularly call my aunts (aka: her sisters) in China. I heard the Covid QR codes being mentioned, afaik, the didn't lose their teaching jobs nor ever got arrested.

The overwhelming majority wouldn‘t even know how.

It's like adblocking. Do you know anyone irl that use adblockers? Seriously, I don't know anyone that does except like maybe 1 perdon.

But here we are, on a platform where practically everyone uses adblockers.

Or in another analogy. Mainstream social media is like inside the GFW and Lemmy is like using VPN to bypass it.

TLDR: Okay sorry if my point isn't concise, I guess my point is: NPCs will just follow the wind, those who have the will to dig deeper will probably be able to bypass the censorship (provided that it's not completely cut off from the outside internet)

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[–] witty_username@feddit.nl 47 points 1 day ago

This is such an important message. We should not lull ourselves into complacency. Banning vpns will be yet another step towards a closed, non-anonymous internet where governments (and by extension companies) will force you to give up access and control over your digital life

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[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 day ago

Denmark is attempting Schrodinger’s VPN ban. Seems like every week it’s defeated and re-emerges. What a waste of administrative time.

[–] varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago

Denmark: everything is hygge unless you are Inuit or a Refugee. Now add free Internet to the exception list.

[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 66 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Gotta give Denmark credit, they're really going for the Shittiest Western European Country Award. Granted, I'm from the USA and we're obviously an unmitigated disaster, but like, what the fuck are you guys doing? Competing for attention?

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[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

They already pulled back the part about banning VPNs last night.

Source

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