Mamdani would not have won without running as a Democrat. I'm still in favor of a party coup via primary action unless the DSA can actually go toe to toe with the Democratic and Republican parties at the same time. I'll probably drop some money on them in '26, but I'm not really convinced they'll be a potent standalone group without the brand recognition of the Democratic party.
this post was submitted on 16 Dec 2025
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Bernie recently started encouraging candidates to run independent
It may be viable in smaller seats in pretty blue districts. The losing move would be a presidential run.
It doesn't matter if he wouldn't have won if he turns into a generic establishment Democrat anyways.
Also your comment is very rich because the DNC did everything to work against Mamdani during his campaign.
Ngl this sounds like the same song and dance contrarians always do. "This organization isn't doing it right" and even do the "well these far right parties would be more left than the DSA".
If people like the author were such experts and even quoting history then why are we under trump with a rise of fascism. You think they would have prevented it with their foresight.
It comes off as the person that won't attempt to do something mad at someone who actually doing something
So why do all those points not apply just as much to you? If you're such an expert, why are we under trump with a rise of fascism.
You mean me? Because me and the author weren't proactive enough. We didn't get off our asses went out into the real world and did something/anything.
I know surprising revelation.
I've just recently started doing whatever I can irl in hopes that it improves things. I'll bet you'll get defensive again
In order to solve it you have to make the correct assessment first to decide if a solution is worth putting effort into.
The DSA exists to bait in people who want to do something and turns their actions into wasted effort. That is what the author explains here
time for me to ask the soft ball question that trips up everyone. what should we be doing?
now that DSA is relevant all of the sudden its waste of time, worse than doing nothing, government psy-op, or whatever excuse people make up to not join the DSA. my answer is anything and everything including joining and helping a DSA chapter then write about what we have done for posterity and so others can figure out what best accomplishes what they need
There's many other options. Greens, PSL, split the DSA to cut off the DNC wing, do a Lenin, so many options.
But the DSA is a proven waste of time. Why recommend it? https://youtu.be/67HDCZhWa04
lol the green party? the same party that hasn't done anything or said anything about trumps deportation policy or funding of Israel. half the time doesn't even run candidates in off season elections. green party is more useless than DSA.
i did help the PSL without knowing it and they don't seem to run candidates.
ngl that video is hilarious its just what if and complaining that dsa follows the policy that the people vote and their lack of vetting like an organization actually needs vetting, you do realize you can kick someone out later? its outdated because the DSA ran Mamdani and infiltrated the dems.
also there's a lot of organization that are involved in politics that don't run candidates they lobby and get their legislation into effect. a lot of organizaiton do use money, but then theres organization that can organize canvassing group for candidates and vet them... like how the dsa vetted mamdani
the same party that hasn't done anything or said anything about trumps deportation policy or funding of Israel
Did you do literally 1 second of research before making random stuff up?
No I remembering something from months ago, green party has been as quiet as Kamala on all the awful things trump did.
Plus green party has no real presence in Florida which kinda explains why I saw DSA at no kings day protest, but no green party.
I could add psl since I inadvertently stood in solidarity with them
You're remembering pure propaganda because what you're saying about Greens is a complete lie.
In fact Jill Stein was one of the few even calling out Russia and China for voting in favor of the recent UNSC resolution rubber stamping the Israeli genocide of Gaza.
Lol so stien back in 2024 not 2025. God this is getting pathetic. Like I already listed pros both the DSA and even pls have and your here damage control green party.
Plus you're getting aggressive. It's like your expecting me to like something don't interact with and can't interact with more than something I can interact with
Sorry I can't have an actual argument with your fictional reality where the DSA isn't a DNC psyop but the Greens are somehow a Trump psyop. Apparently that's "being aggressive".
Oh yeah no one is actually proving that DSA is an actual arm of the DNC or a dnc psy-op. I guess you think having a last stand about what you think the DSA is will somehow make it true or meaningful on some emotional level
Also I never said green party was a psy-op just more useless than the DSA