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Hahaha fuck Firefox. Been saying it for years. Used to be the goat. Hasn't been for a decade and a half.
how would this afffect the forked versions like Waterfox, LibreWolf, IronFox? The AI part is a separated feature from mainline Firefox branch, so forks can choose not to include it?
Hey tech companies. Consumers do not want more AI, they want less of it. Maybe we just need to get the word out?
Exactly this. I would love to see just one tech company stand up and say we are not doing AI, our AI budget is $0 and our product will not ship with AI. If you really want to use AI with our system you can download a plug-in or something but we won't waste our time writing one.
They would get a million users overnight.
But 'AI' is the cool word of the moment! All the AI peddlers say so in their sale pitches!
I want it
Nope, time for a new browser.
Welp, time to move to waterfox for good
WTF man, I just want a fucking browser.
I recommend waterfox and the DuckDuckGo browser, at least those 2 are good at least
Ducks browser runs on chrome though I highly recommend using anything but that because it contributes to chromes monopoly over the web.
Really excited for Ladybird and to see what Servo ends up being used in. Sad to see what Firefox is doing.
No you don't, now suck down your government mandated AI slop and say thank you — you philistine.
I just want to be able to group tabs on mobile 🥲
I like to imagine that these CEOs just get like a million AI emails a day from alt accounts of Sam Altman begging them to put AI in everything and they're all too stupud to realize it.
LibreWolf all the way
First: Every product we build must give people agency in how it works. Privacy, data use, and AI must be clear and understandable. Controls must be simple. AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off. People should know why a feature works the way it does and what value they get from it.
That's a good idea to put first. Of course, like do no evil, priorities change, so we'll need to keep a close eye on this.
Second: our business model must align with trust. We will grow through transparent monetization that people recognize and value.
Transparent is good, but if he things he's going to add value to monetization, he's smoking crack. There's nothing we want from a browser that's not already provided by a plugin.
Third: Firefox will grow from a browser into a broader ecosystem of trusted software. Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser and support a portfolio of new and trusted software additions.
Nobody wants that. We already had all we wanted from them in trusted software.
I don't know if that is the reason but I wonder if the recent ruling that made Firefox loose on the cash income from Google as a default search engine has them doing a similar type of deal with AI companies, even Google, like, Firefox has a built-in interface for AI and the backend you can choose but the default one is one that some AI company pay a fee to be.
If that is the case I think it is fine, it is like a wink-wink situation, you have to have it enabled by default and with a default provider for it to be worth something for someone to pay for the privilege, and then the users can simply change it be gone with it without affecting the payout. (Unless the pay or renew pay has some metric like use statistics)
They have pushed me back to Vivaldi.
Not open source.
A non beneficial mutation at best.
That a way yo beat dead internet theory. Get IA hallucinate the web you browse and no need to webbrowser to have internet access.
I don't think anyone actually read the announcement, just the headline. Here was the new CEOs actual first point.
"First: Every product we build must give people agency in how it works. Privacy, data use, and AI must be clear and understandable. Controls must be simple. AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off. People should know why a feature works the way it does and what value they get from it."
By people he means other CEOs.
AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn ~~off~~ on. That's how it should be.
I despise AI. I don't want it in my browser. If I want to use AI, I'll go to Mistral or Claude.
First, there should be a survey on what users actually want, no?
Because if no one wants AI and it's "always a choice", what you really do is waste considerable resources with as the only results, more settings users have to go through before starting using their browsers.
Well hopefully the different forks have their ducks in a row to strip all these “features” out down the road. So glad I use LibreWolf and not Firefox proper anymore
