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[–] SeaSgt@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

That’s fantastic. Can Apple Pay attention to this?

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Basic documentation does not equal open source.

Toaster ovens from 40 years ago did better. They came with a technical diagram.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago

But that means you'll repair it rather than just buying another. We can't have that! Think of the GDP!

[–] Wren@lemmy.today 21 points 2 days ago

We need to start demanding technical diagrams again. I've fixed up antiques where the schematics were printed on the inside, even for a simple flashlight.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 311 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (16 children)

"Open source" really isn't the right term here, if they're just releasing API specifications. "Open sourcing" the speakers would be releasing the source code to the software that runs on the speakers.

Like, all of Microsoft's libraries on Windows have a publicly-documented interface. That hardly makes them open source. Just means that people can write software that make use of them.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 76 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yes, the correct term for this would be “open api”

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"documented api", nothing open about it

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[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Indeed it's misleading wording but credit where credit is due, this is far better than turning them all into e-waste. It's not like anyone bought these with the assumption they would have any sort of official API someday, especially after seeing how Sonos handled their similar situation...

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

It’s misleading wording by arse-technica, not Bose. The quoted wording from Nosebis correct and it looks like they’re doing the right thing. After originally announcing they would be dumb speakers, now they’ll continue to be useful and third party apps can continue to use them. Applaud Bose for doing the right thing

Direct your Boos to arse-technica

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[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It would be one thing for a corporation to misuse the term open source as they've been doing lately. It's pretty bad for one of the biggest and oldest tech news sites to be doing it.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

More like ArseTechnica, eh?

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 137 points 3 days ago (7 children)

We need a law that companies provide device owners root access for every end of life device.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 54 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's something the EU would do, but never America.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

How about a free gun at the end of life of any device?

[–] undrwater@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

NOW we're talking!

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Knowing America, it'd probably be a free round (gun not included) and you're required to end the life of your device with it.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

INB4 companies start making proprietary ammo that only works with their special gun and now they can gouge your money on the tail end of product life.

[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I think medical device manufacturers should have to support their products for some definite length of time—maybe 10 years?—or not be allowed to make devices at all

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For software too, if a company has sold software and then goes out of business, it should have to give all licensed users permanent access to use it. Preferably also the source code. (Ideally we'd have open source options for everything but that's not always practical or possible right now.)

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[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 44 points 2 days ago (5 children)

No thanks. I had like 20 sonos speaker, and then, one day, sonos decided to fuck the app up, making it impossible to use my library anymore. This was the day I sold them all, ranted like a pissed off babuskha and never thought of buying similar products ever but make my own.

Real open source or go fork yourself in the eye. I'm so done with this corpo-crapshit

[–] BeyondRuby@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You sound like an extremist brother. If they lie and dont do it (seems like they already have made it open-source) then get mad. But it sounds like you are upset because you got screwed by Sonos and Bose actually are attempting to do the right thing for their customers.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Extremist? Nah, I'm just old enough to have been fooled and fucked way too often by the enshittification, so that I have serious trust issues with corpo promises now.

I try to stay away from big tech crap as far as I can. If there's no open source alternative, I make my own (if complexity allows) or just don't use it at all.

And I'm not upset at Bose. Great if they really deliver. I just doubt they will. And if they do, it would be the one shiny example that stands out. But it would make Bose a bit more attractive to me then. At least the older ones.

Besides, other comments say they just release the API, not made it real open source. Dunno what is true and also don't care. Yet it would be a substantial difference.

[–] NovaTheFluf@piefed.blahaj.zone 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thing is they didn't actually open-source it, as stated in other comments. They just released the api documentation. While, yes, it is a step in the correct direction, it is definitely not open-source. Open source would be releasing the source code for all the software involved, which they haven't done.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I wasn’t affected by the Sonos App fiasco because I don’t use it. I mostly use the speakers through Spotify, and occasionally through Home Assistant. I only need the app to set my wake schedule but once it was done, I didn’t need to go back.

Won’t this allow the same? With the API, you should be able to continue using your speakers with local automation, assuming someone wants to implement that.

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[–] nroth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

They're never getting those integrations back though, e.g. Spotify. Those are usually implemented in each company's servers rather than something that can be brokered locally through an API. That needs to change

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's a pretty cool thing to do

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They didn't open source anything.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but at least documenting the API and saying “have at it” is better than dropping it

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 days ago

The headline is still misleading.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago

And they didn't do it. The headline is misleading.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago
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