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USA withdraws from 29 Europe-based international organizations/ entities (www.whitehouse.gov)
submitted 2 days ago by vdbm@lemmy.world to c/europe@feddit.org
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In particular:

  • Education Cannot Wait (Geneva, Switzerland)
  • European Centre of Excellence for Countering Hybrid Threats (Helsinki, Finland)
  • Forum of European National Highway Research Laboratories (Brussels, Belgium)
  • Freedom Online Coalition (The Hague, The Netherlands)
  • Global Community Engagement and Resilience Fund (Geneva, Switzerland)
  • Global Counterterrorism Forum (The Hague, The Netherlands)
  • Global Forum on Cyber Expertise (The Hague, The Netherlands)
  • Global Forum on Migration and Development (Geneva, Switzerland)
  • Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (Geneva, Switzerland)
  • Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services (Bonn, Germany)
  • International Centre for the Study of the Preservation and Restoration of Cultural Property (Rome, Italy)
  • International Development Law Organization (Rome, Italy)
  • International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance (Stockholm, Sweden)
  • International Institute for Justice and the Rule of Law (Malta)
  • International Lead and Zinc Study Group (Lisbon, Portugal)
  • International Solar Alliance (Paris, France)
  • International Union for Conservation of Nature (Gland, Switzerland)
  • Regional Cooperation Council (Sarajevo, Bosnia & Herzegovina)
  • Renewable Energy Policy Network for the 21st Century (Paris, France)
  • Science and Technology Center in Ukraine (Kyiv, Ukraine)
  • Venice Commission of the Council of Europe (Strasbourg, France)
  • International Residual Mechanism for Criminal Tribunals (The Hague, The Netherlands)
  • International Trade Centre (Geneva, Switzerland)
  • UN Collaborative Programme on Reducing Emissions from Deforestation and Forest Degradation in Developing Countries (part of FAO, Rome, Italy)
  • UN Conference on Trade and Development (Geneva, Switzerland)
  • UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (Bonn, Germany)
  • UN Institute for Training and Research (Geneva, Switzerland)
  • UN System Staff College (Turin, Italy)
  • UN Water (Geneva, Switzerland)
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[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 69 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You know what? If the US want to remove itself from influence, I'm fine with that at this juncture.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If the US want to remove itself from influence

But they don't. They are simply governed by morons who want to replace all that "nonsense" with the only actual influence they understand military force.

[–] axh@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They are simply governed by morons

Who is a real moron? A moron who governs or morons who elected them?

[–] anzo@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who elected them? It's no democracy when the votes have a weighting factor to make iliterate votes from rural areas more important.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, the electoral is bullshit and needs to change, and I'm sure that has a suppressing effect on voter turnout....however, that piece of turd still won the popular vote. The majority of people either voted for him or, burdened with supreme ignorance and/or over-riding main-character syndrome, decided not to vote. Which is effectively the same thing.

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Idk even then you sort of have the 24/7 propaganda machine + Russian bots that were proven to be spreading false information to help trump win. Billions were spent helping him win, along with deliberate interference from Russia, and he still barely won.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Sure. There was a lot of fuckery, no doubt. A whole lot of variables that influenced both voter turnout and voter votes. I wonder if we'll do a better job at teaching how to identify and combat propaganda when/if we get to the other side of this stain. It's too effective with this population.

[–] anzo@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago

Ah, never looked into the numbers of this second presidency. I guess that bullet he "dodged" did give him an unexpected appeal.. Sad.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This doesn't stop the externalized effects of US internal policy from affecting the rest of the world.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But it does lessen it

[–] vdbm@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I posted it to understand how it was affecting the rest of the world, and Europe in particular, not to make a reflection on wider US policy. So far I haven't heard reactions from the UN, from the EU, from the governments of EU member states, or from the mayors of the cities that host these organisations.

[–] LordMayor@piefed.social 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Russia just won the Cold War.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think China might be the actual winner there.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah more like with their last breath Russia took the US down with them

[–] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If they don't like the UN, maybe they should also give up their seat and their veto power on the security council?

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago

If America had it's way. There would be no UN and America would rule the world as an empire.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Being in international organisations is soft power, and Trump doesn’t like soft. Trump likes it hard.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 1 points 22 hours ago

Bubba has entered into the chat.

[–] vdbm@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I have seen it pointed out that some of these 66 agencies are really platforms, treaties and commissions, not organisations. Is there an analysis of this?

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

International Lead and Zinc Study Group (Lisbon, Portugal)

They really want to replenish the lead generation.

[–] hoppygarden@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
  • Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (Geneva, Switzerland)

IPCC .. they withdraw from IPCC .. sure, why not, wt$#&#&#@@$$$#&#&

[–] glasratz@feddit.org 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The White House has become so untrustworthy that you can't even believe that.

[–] vdbm@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Believe what exactly?

[–] glasratz@feddit.org 12 points 2 days ago

The announcement. The source here is the official website of the white house. So you can't trust this list unless the organizations mentioned confirm it.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago

I would call it dumb, if it wasn't deliberate sabotage.

Krasnov is a traitor.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's notable that the UN was formed in San Francisco, and is headquartered in New York City.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They gonna arrest them and deport them! May also bomb them, pick and choose situation./J

[–] vdbm@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's a bit of a polemic comment. Nothing of this will happen. We are talking about 66 small organisations all over the world.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Speaking of the headquarters in NY. I forgot the "/J" fixed.

[–] vdbm@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

17 are EU-based.

[–] vdbm@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Is there any discussion (anywhere!) on what this might imply for these Europe-based international organisations (funding, staffing, projects)?

[–] errer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stephen Miller’s serpentine paws all over this one

[–] vdbm@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I know, but my intention was not to have a debate on Stephen Miller (on which I have much to say but this is not the forum), but on the implications in Europe for this Europe-based international organisations. Nobody has written about this so far.

[–] vdbm@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Many of these organisations, also funded by the EU or EU member states (17 are EU-based), are now suddenly in serious financial disarray. I doubt that the EU will react and these organisations are too small and too institutional to react much themselves. I know a couple of them (besides the IPCC, which we all know) and can confirm that they do great work.

[–] fennesz12@feddit.dk 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

As a European, I think the EU needs to wake up and become more willing to act geopolitically. It needs to take charge, and have a structure which allows it to make strong authoritative decisions, that will enable EU's future as the third superpower nestled between Russia and the US. We need a single strong leader to do it, someone who can really challenge Putin and Trump, isn't afraid to yell, to be threatening, and dominate. Our leader should be similar: A kind of people's man, a man who can bring our culture back to its former glory, maybe from a small nation like Austria who actually can sway public opinion through strong speeches.

I can see the exact person vividly in my mind. As I concentrate on his image, I think I can even make out what kind of beard he has. Certainly, Trump and Putin would respect such a man.

[–] vdbm@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When I arrived at the man from a small nation like Austria, I realised you were sarcastic. Well done.

[–] fennesz12@feddit.dk 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I know it didn't really bring a whole lot to the discussion. I guess I'm just frustrated with politics in general. I do still stand by my point about Putin and Trump liking such a guy though.

[–] vdbm@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I posted it to make people aware of the European dimension to this decision, which is sofar not mentioned by policy makers or media. Perhaps someone reads it and will take it up in a discourse outside Lemmy.