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Emmanuel Macron’s comments come as Germany’s president, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, warns against turning world into ‘robber’s den’

The presidents of France and Germany have sharply condemned US foreign policy under Donald Trump, saying respectively that Washington was “breaking free from international rules” and the world risked turning into a “robber’s den”.

In unusually strong and apparently uncoordinated remarks, Emmanuel Macron and Frank-Walter Steinmeier warned the postwar rules-based international order could soon disintegrate.

“The US is an established power, but one that is gradually turning away from some of its allies and breaking free from the international rules that it was until recently promoting,” Macron told France’s diplomatic corps at the Élysée Palace on Thursday.

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Whelp, this looks like a time for FREEDOM FRIES again.

We will break you

...

The USA has been breaking international treaties for as long as I've been alive, and I'm old.

The leopards are going to eat the EUs face, it's their (usa) only chance to win in our forever war, which is now looking at China long term.

Short term, we will gobble up all of those profits in Europe; the fruit we planted after WWII is almost ready to harvest.

The entire machine is now international and dedicated to profit, and the best way to seize profits is war. USA is world's arms dealer for a reason, this was always going to be result. All of these "world wide" organizations created by the USA were created with this in mind.

This is my opinion and it is not sanctioned by the UN

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

You were never allies, more like useful idiots that defended their masters every action until its finger started pointing towards you.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

The US was also useful to other countries. An alliance isn't a friendship, it's an agreement between countries to work towards common interests.

There are still common interests between the US and many other countries in the world. Just the leadership is incompetent and doesn't know or care about US interests. And the American people were stupid enough to vote that guy in a second time so no one can trust Americans to not continue fucking up until there's a massive cultural change which will take generations.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Well you're not wrong there...

With the Iraq invasion, for example, decades ago, I remember all of Europe going behind the the US, even though everyone knew the weapons of mass destruction was a complete and utter lie.

The US, Russia, China, they're all the same and all only interested in regional or world domination. Fuck humanity, fuck humans, it's all about a few rich and powerful

Those rich and powerful have to go, they're a cancer on humanity and they WILL kill us all

Once that's gone, we need to put hard caps on personal wealth, world wide. No more millionaires, fuck that. Anything over a million can go straight to taxes. If we'd have that, and a government where nobody can have more than a few % of the power, we can finally have trustworthy governments (competence is a different thing, still) that will have so much income that we can do free healthcare, free education, universal basic income, you name it

Fuck the rich, fuck the powerful, I want a better world for EVERYBODY

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You have a harsh view of the world. Maybe lighten up on yourself. It might help you to have more compassion.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

He's not wrong.

Yeah, it's harsh, yeah it's sucks, it's also true, or have you forgotten operation Iraqi """"freedom"""""

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 15 hours ago

I mean the Marshall plan more or less rebuilt the entirety of Europe...

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago

"Turning away" is not the right expression. "Backstabbing" is what he's looking for.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago

The only allies the orange paedo wants are Jeffery Epstein, and putin. And it's all out of Epstein's!

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Reminder that Macron preferred allying himself with the far right so a left coalition dutifully elected couldn’t represent the French

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

And that makes this statement invalid because...?

I know he's a dick but that is not the point right now

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In what way does that make his statements here invalid? And, if it's not your intention to throw doubt upon this view of the growing conflict between ourselves and the USA, why bring it up?

People are not one dimensional, it's possible for them to both want things we disagree with, and still be right and aligned with us on other things.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 18 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

It doesn’t.

But it’s still extremely concerning and deeply depressing that the PM of one of the most powerful countries in the EU was too much of a neoliberal capitalist fuckstick to even consider making common cause with the left wing of his country’s political spectrum in the interest of shutting out the fascistic RN (rebranded FN) party.

It is good that Macron is condemning orangeboi’s hostility towards our (former?) allies.

It is not good that Macron is being so guarded about it, or that he (and anyone else in European leadership for that matter) seem to have not bothered to put any thought or real effort into a contingency plan for this sort of eventuality. It reminds me very depressingly of the ineffectuality of our own “left” wing, the DNC.

It’s simultaneous inexcusable that Macron cut a deal with the far right in France after literally everyone else pulled out the stops to block them getting a majority, which they did at Macron’s behest, after which he politically backstabbed them.

The point being made is that Macron has some very… uncomfortably flexible political sensibilities that he’s already put on full display to the world, and there’s a definite sense of wariness and mistrust of him as a result. And I can’t say that I blame the French people for feeling that way.

[–] bigmamoth@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

U mean when the far left made a coalition against the right ?

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 0 points 15 hours ago

Go back to watching cnews, fascist scum

[–] bigmamoth@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

This retard need to go

Every time I see his Manchurian candidate face I feel a bit triggered.