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US President Donald Trump’s abduction of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro on January 3 has emboldened him to proceed with the annexation of Greenland, a Danish-owned, self-governed territory, spelling the effective end of NATO and furthering Russia’s war aims in Ukraine, experts tell Al Jazeera.

“The move on Venezuela illustrates the Trump administration’s determination to dominate the Western Hemisphere – of which Greenland geographically is a part,” said Anna Wieslander, Northern Europe director for the Atlantic Council, a think tank.

“If the United States decides to attack another NATO country, then everything would stop – that includes NATO and therefore post-World War II security,” Frederiksen said.

“The pandering to Trump has been an element of our strategy over the last year, leaving observers hoping, but not entirely trusting, that another element of the strategy is preparing urgently for the final rupture with the United States,” Giles said.

Giles told Al Jazeera that Europe’s best option was to place a military deterrent on Greenland now, believing that putting allied troops in the Baltic States and Poland after 2017 deterred a Russian attack there.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

That would be the ultimate win for Putin: Destruction of the NATO.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Canada has the world's longest undefended border with the US. There's no hope if the US invades. It would be like Russia invading Ukraine with no mountains in the way

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 35 minutes ago

This would be impossible to hold we would lose it the second we stopped dumping hundreds of billions per year and would never own anywhere but islands of fascism where our troops were concentrated.

We would suffer continuous losses and the whole world except Russia and China would turn against us.

We would probably suffer economic collapse as other countries dropped dollars and exchange rates shifted against us while war creates a need for tax money which can only be raised by taxes which are unpopular or tariffs which further destroy trade.

If Congress doesn't get behind attacking Canada Trump could only fund it by misappropriating money or raising tariffs.

Ultimately we lose Canada and end up in the next great depression

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

We are seriously in a good position right now in EU believe it or not. Trump has been a wakeup call, and we are already mobilizing faster than - ever? - however, imagine being Canada, australia, Japan, etc. Countries far far away from Europe. If nato dies, Europe makes a new defense alliance, focussing on having troops on the, continent. Canada and australia needs to come closer to Europe. Trade wise, militiary wise, political, if they don't wanna get sucked up in the strongest superpower nearby, even if they have anything in common or not.

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

If Trump invades, does article 5 trigger against a nato member?

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

There is no nato if this happens.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

I knew this would happen eventually, I just thought it would happen after my lifetime

[–] DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Experts.... who the fuck are these experts.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 14 hours ago

They're not experts they're just some random ~~think tank~~ milane actors with a political goal which means they're just arrogant people who like telling everybody else what to do largely with zero qualifications.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 10 points 17 hours ago

Some countries in Europe are starting to, and given what Europe is, that's probably the best they can start doing.

At least because they made sure to show us their hand at their latest sonic weapons and information warfare used to shut down weapons that was used in the Venezuela attack. They would probably go the same route with Europe, trying to behead whatever strategic target is going to get them what they want, because they can't go for a prolonged conflict either.

[–] Cloudstash@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Prepare yourself. Go buy a good quality action camera.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

with lots of film. get the high speed stuff, to shoot all the "action".

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If it really happens, shut down all the US military installations in Europe and European territories. The Red Coats should tell the US to leave Diego Garcia too.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago

They can't even shut down the base in Greenland. There's a reason DeGaulle kicked the US out in 1966. And why Okinawa residents have been lobbying to shut down the local base for decades.

Europeans have been under military occupation since the end of WW2, telling themselves the gun pointed at the back of their heads was aimed at the USSR, even after it dissolved.

Now they're going to have to deal with a foreign hostile occupation whose roots have grown deep

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 15 points 21 hours ago

The pandering to Trump has been an element of our strategy over the last year

[–] richardwallass@sh.itjust.works 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago

Nobel war prize

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