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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

know who never pushed AI?

Linux.

know who has fixes or useful community support?

Linux.

know who doesn't scan your desktop every second to scrape your data?

Linux.

know who has the audacity to provide a free product and still doesn't sell your identity to the lowest bidders?

Linux.

holy shit, it's almost like Linux is the OS by the people for the people...

Remember: Companies don't learn lessons, they react to profits. They're 100% gonna boil the frog here.

[–] kcseb@pawb.social 11 points 10 hours ago

and this is why I use Linux. No forced AI nonsense being shoved down my neck.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 19 points 15 hours ago

i don’t believe it and am no longer giving them the chance to allow me to see it.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 32 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I think the best way to turn people on to Linux is to give them a bootable live USB, so they can try it out. Otherwise, they have no basis for comparison.

Too many people just accept whatever Microsoft gives them, shrug and think, "Well, I guess this is just the way computers are."

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 5 points 14 hours ago

The best way from my perspective is to show them.

At tech events and meetups, I'm showing them Linux.

When my friends come over, I show them my self hosted solutions on a Linux.

At work, where we use Macs, we talk about open-source, including Linux.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 16 hours ago

I like the idea, but unfortunately most PCs don't boot from USB out of the box. It requires a few easy steps, but this might just be enough for a lot of people not to try it.

[–] Lulzagna@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Microsoft hasn't made a decent OS since Windows 7, why would they start now?

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Agreed. 2000 was fantastic, but that was 9 years before 7. Its been 17 years since 7.

[–] Lulzagna@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

XP is still good! still the only windows version that's reverse compatible with DOS.

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

People have too much rose tinted vision about 7, it really wasn't that great. I don't see anything it does better than w11, and if you have modern hardware (I mean like 2015+) your computer is being held back by w7. Sure it's technically more light weight but it lacks support for modern hardware and any modern computer will by choked by w7 where w11 or Linux would run significantly better.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

God I still remember how many people still screamed about Windows 7 and getting rid of XP. You can definitely tell the age of people based off of what Windows OS they claim is best.

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

For real I cut my teeth on vista and grew up largely with w7, I can't hold 7 on a pedestal though.

[–] Lulzagna@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

If you think that Windows 7 was overrated, you're naive and completely oblivious to the state of Windows during that era. XP came out in 2001 and Vista in 2007, during a time personal computer improvements were exploding. That'd be like 20 years nowadays. Vista was a bloated and slow mess that even modern hardware could barely run efficiently. Windows 7 righted the wrongs and made massive performance improvements that Vista lacked, and not just for modern hardware at the time, but legacy hardware was revived.

Arguing that Windows 7 doesn't support modern hardware is so asinine and a straw-man argument. No one was making an argument that Windows 7 is a good OS today, not a single person. What we are arguing is that every OS since 7 has been a half-baked mess with tons of bugs and annoyances.

"I don't see anything it does better than w11". You think the lack of unified interface is equal to windows 7? You think the disaster of a start menu is equal to windows 7? You think forced updates is better? You think the abundance of telemetry is better?

Honestly, have you even used Windows 7?

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago

Ok but windows didn't make a good os with windows 7. Everybody thinks 7 was so grand because after years of updates they un fucked it enough to be good. Do u remember being stuck 2/3rds of the way in a w7 install for eternity? It simply not taking and having to start over? For the first 2 years I swear to God you couldn't use any printer with it. We kept a vista computer around because it fucking worked better till the 7 bugs got worked out. Windows 11 is now 4 years old, and I'd argue as solid as w7 was at that age too (if we look past the shoving unneeded crap down your throat bit that all can be disabled if you'd bother). I don't remember the early days of vista as that's what I grew up on, but early w7 days were rough too. I'm just trying to say that I don't remember a non half baked os being released from windows, not sure what you think im trying to straw man here.

[–] Royy@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

I'm a bit confused by your criticism. Windows 7 came out in 2009, Windows 8 came out in 2012. And your criticism of Windows 7 is that it doesn't run great with modern hardware? Microsoft not optimizing an old operating system for new hardware when it's focusing on a new version, to me, isn't a reflection on the quality or design of the old operating system. To me that's like criticizing DOS for being limited to 640kb of memory. It was designed for the hardware available at the time.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

There's a threshold that you pass and once you do there's no going back because the trust is lost forever and customers will go the next chance they get.

It looks like this is finally the point we might have reached with windows.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Yes that, thanks!

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 7 points 21 hours ago

No they aren't. They don't care.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] uienia@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

It's going to be massively worse in Windows 12. There is no going back for them.

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